"ISIS is not Islamic

[Aegon]

Who is the "politically correct left"?  Criticism isn't always met with allegations of bigotry, by the way. So I don't know where you got that from (that all critique of the religion called "racist"). If you're polite then you shouldn't be called a bigot - except by people who would rather not have the beliefs challenged. Those people hiding behind the term "Islamophobia" are rather like people who pretend that they were raped (when they actually weren't), and they should be ashamed of themselves. It makes real victims less likely to come forward because they fear that they won't be taken seriously.

Ben Affleck is the perfect emobidement of who I'm talking about. Every day there are people like him all over my Facebook and in media.

[The Grand Nudger]

Could have just pointed to POTUS in the SOTU last night as an example Aegon.

[Aegon]

I didn't watch the address, but Obama has gone on record multiple times saying "ISIS is not Islamic."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwp8qKvE-0g

[Catholic_Lady]

They are Islamic.

That doesn't mean that everyone who is Islamic is like them. Most are not, and we shouldn't treat them or speak of them as they are.

....Of course, we all know that already, except maybe Min who explicitly said we should paint all Muslims with the same brush as Isis. Oh and perhaps Rhythm, who kudosed his post.

[The Grand Nudger]

They all claim to take their marching orders from the same commander...and the same dispatch, who am I to call them liars?

[Catholic_Lady]

They all claim to take their marching orders from the same commander...and the same dispatch, who am I to call them liars?

Ok, Trump.

[Minimalist]

They are Islamic.

That doesn't mean that everyone who is Islamic is like them. Most are not, and we shouldn't treat them or speak of them as they are.

....Of course, we all know that already, except maybe Min who explicitly said we should paint all Muslims with the same brush as Isis. Oh and perhaps Rhythm, who kudosed his post.

I can't tell them apart.  Can you?

[Regina]

Increasingly no. There's so many who, when they do a terrorist attack, all these people come out the woodwork like "omg, he was so normal though!". Either he was a good actor, or he has some very good friends. I'm thinking both.

And we still don't see that same level of outrage from Muslims when a terror attack happens. They have so much fire when it's a cartoon of Muhammad, or when it's someone "insulting Islam", and then as soon as shit like what just happened in Turkey goes off, none of these people are to be heard anywhere. I wish someone who was actually Muslim would explain that to me, because it is questionable.

[Catholic_Lady]

Increasingly no. There's so many who, when they do a terrorist attack, all these people come out the woodwork like "omg, he was so normal though!". Either he was a good actor, or he has some very good friends. I'm thinking both.

And we still don't see that same level of outrage from Muslims when a terror attack happens. They have so much fire when it's a cartoon of Muhammad, or when it's someone "insulting Islam", and then as soon as shit like what just happened in Turkey goes off, none of these people are to be heard anywhere. I wish someone who was actually Muslim would explain that to me, because it is questionable.

Concerning your second paragraph, I must admit I have noticed/wondered that as well. 

But the first part of your post.... really? You can't tell Isis Muslims apart from any other Muslims? What about MK, Rayaan, Atlas, and the other Muslims on this site who are perfectly good people?? 

This is silly.

[The Grand Nudger]

Pretty sure that any given ISIL militants peers would call them "perfectly good people".  I have no trouble distinguishing Rayaan or Atlas or MK from a militant....I -cannot- dinstinguish their beliefs from each other in any more than an academic sense.  

The question that I'm sure has flashed through the minds of ISIS before...and often enough my own, is -why- don't these guys agree with them?  Again...they claim to be taking orders from the same commander, and the same dispatch. They both claim that the book is without flaw, full of proof, and crystal clear.

ISIS is -absolutely- representative of islam, even though it isn't representative of muslims, which must be a hell of a thing to come to terms with as a muslim. They both believe in the goodness and truth of the same terrible shit.....one group, apparently, is simply more compelled to act on it than the other.