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Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
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Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
No sorry Jews, this has nothing to do with wanting genocide of human beings in real life. I am sorry it bothers Jews that atheist go after your books of myth too. This is strictly a book review, like a bad movie or bad book. Nobody should want any group wiped out in real life, but you don't get to set up taboos to avoid criticism of bad claims.

The god character Yahweh is a tribal gang leader, no not the way humans want to view him, but a tribal leader because of the REAL life humans lived in BACK THEN, in tribal kingships, back then humans lived in very tribal groups and  BACK THEN the tribe followed the king and loyalty was expected, BACK THEN. 

On top of that Hebrews simply took a polytheistic lesser god of the Canaanites Yahweh, and took this polytheistic lesser god, under the head god EL who was head TOP GOD of the divine family, and took Yahweh and made him the only god. 

This god was a warrior god, reflecting the tribal rivalries between REAL tribes back then. It is not that atheists say this out of hate of human rights, we say this as a criticism of taking ANY god claim literally as fact. ALL religions get upset needlessly in reality when you simply say "That is not the way it happened in reality". Just like when Muslims claim they will get 72 virgins, or when Christians claim a man can survive rigor mortis. We criticize ALL religions, and I find it sick that Jews out of all the religions in the world would forget what lack of questioning does. 

Ann Frank would NOT be happy with some Jews considering the silence of criticism that lead German Christians to slaughter 6 million Jews. I do not think she would be happy with some Jews hiding behind the Holocaust to avoid criticism. "That is not true", or "Your character is not as nice as you'd like to paint him", is not the same as saying "get ride of everyone in real life". NO NO NO NO, and knock it off.

Jews don't get a pass anymore than they give Muslims on their claims, anymore than Christians should on their claims. NOBODY should call for the genocide of any group, but that does not give the book or the claims that people derive from them a pass. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...h-God.html
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
Jews tend to do that. Just ignore them.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
(January 24, 2016 at 7:00 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Jews tend to do that. Just ignore them.

It isn't all or nothing, there is truth to ALL bigotry in all directions, but humans have a hard time telling the difference between hate to the point of wanting to kill others, which is always bad, and mere "Dude, your logic sucks". 

The truth of what atheists are saying is really no different than having a friend come back from a really horrible B movie and saying "Hey man that was the best movie I've ever seen". 

JEWS we are NOT saying this because we want you dead, WE DONT WANT MORE death in any direction. But I am sorry ALL three religions have the same god character, and that character really reads more like a bad villain in a Russ Meyer, B-Movie, or horrible Si fi movie, "Attack of the 50 Foot Killer Tomato, Friday The 13th Area 51, Rocky Horror 72 Virgin, The Day They Myth Stood Still".

Dawkins was not calling for bigotry anymore than saying "Santa is not real" is calling for hate of children.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

" Yahweh is a warrior for his people, a storm-god typical of ancient Near Eastern myths"

In most of antiquity in polytheism also, it was a common flaw in human thought to attribute the success of conquest to the divine. You can find the idea of the divine intervening in human affairs in all of antiquity.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
Dawkins is gonna have a chuckle over this.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
The angry desert god is a despicable character no matter what language you read his holy books in.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
To be fair if Dawkins wants people to stop calling him an anti-semite he should stop starting every debate off by announcing his intention to kill every Jew on the face of the earth.
People might take it the wrong way.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
(January 24, 2016 at 4:14 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: To be fair if Dawkins wants people to stop calling him an anti-semite he should stop starting every debate off by announcing his intention to kill every Jew on the face of the earth.
People might take it the wrong way.

Show me where he even implies Jews should be wiped of the face of the planet. I defy you.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
He has the same view about all religions in that they are poisonous to human discourse and so do I. I defy you to show me anywhere ever he says "kill all Jews". SHOW ME.
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RE: Rabbi falsely calls Dawkins anti Semite.
(January 24, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 24, 2016 at 4:14 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: To be fair if Dawkins wants people to stop calling him an anti-semite he should stop starting every debate off by announcing his intention to kill every Jew on the face of the earth.
People might take it the wrong way.

Show me where he even implies Jews should be wiped of the face of the planet. I defy you.
Can't. Its usually cut from the released videos. Totally happened though. He did a Hitler salute and everything.
Oh; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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