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Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 3:54 pm
Although this happened last year, I only became aware of it this year. So, many many people are very proud that Texas now has a holiday devoted to this....man.
Chris Kyle Day
Now, I've seen the movie but not read his book. I did, however, read a number of excerpts from the book and some commentary and reviews. The movie portrays him as a man who struggled with his sniper job. His own words portray him as a man who enjoyed it, and wished he'd "killed more" of the people he called "savages".
Chris Kyle Interview
Is he a war hero that deserves honor, or a monster who actually enjoyed his work waaaay more than the movie shows? Or something in-between?
Personally, I find the man to be more of an abhorrent monster than a war hero. But that is at least partly a reflection of how I view these "Wars". Then again, I don't feel this way about the vast majority of recent war vets, just for those who glorify the war or themselves for being part of it.
I notice the responses to any criticism in comments section are usually something along the lines of "leftist commie morons" and "anti-American libtartds" and "don't like Texas/USA policy, GTFO", etc.
So, what do you think about it?
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Just a guy who wanted to excel at doing the job given to him. Of course he wanted to kill more. The more of them he killed the less his comrades and non fighting population died.
He is neither hero nor monster. He is a man assigned a necessary task in war.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Government seems to always find the people needed to do whatever.
I'm thinking there weren't too many he blasted that wouldn't have blasted him first if the chance arose. Having a PTSD guy he was trying to help (in over his head in my 20/20 rearview mirror) shoot him was awful. Reminded me of 'Ken' from when I was a volunteer in the HIV Buddy program . . .
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 5:26 pm
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Might have been one of the 2 percent Dave Grossman spoke of in his book "On killing". The number of soldiers, who actually enjoy taking lives. It's reading material for the US army and Grossman was or still is an army shrink. So it's not some liberal book.
I'm not sure, if that's the kind of guy who should be celebrated. Going by his own quotes alone, he was a bloodthirsty prick. The world isn't any poorer without him.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
I don't know enough about him to know where his heart was really at. I only watched the movie. If he was like the person in the movie, then I don't have a problem with him as a person. Either way though, I try to er on the side of favor to our military members because they have such a tough job, and have been through so much. It's hard to speak when we personally were not in the horrific situations they were in. Interesting question, though. Definitely something to think about.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 5:38 pm
(February 3, 2016 at 4:38 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Just a guy who wanted to excel at doing the job given to him. Of course he wanted to kill more. The more of them he killed the less his comrades and non fighting population died.
He is neither hero nor monster. He is a man assigned a necessary task in war.
^Probably a sound conclusion, given that we didn't really know him to say much more either way.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 5:43 pm
Chris Kyle Day?
Is that the day you get to go out and shoot a veteran?
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 6:24 pm
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(February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't know enough about him to know where his heart was really at. I only watched the movie. If he was like the person in the movie, then I don't have a problem with him as a person.
Read his personal quotes, taken from his book. These quotes can be found easily on the internet. Most is bull and pure invention, but it helps in realizing how he wanted to be viewed.
Also, as for American Sniper - there's a certain brand of American films that are no better in the gag reflex department than what Goebbels produced in ages past. Top Gun, They were expendable, Pearl Harbor to a certain degree. Usually the ones where the support of the Pentagon is mentioned in the credits. They don't smile on productions that don't play ball - propaganda ball, that is.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 6:34 pm
Sarah Palin loved the movie. That, alone, should be sufficient reason to doubt its authenticity.
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RE: Texas Governor declares Feb 2nd Chris Kyle Day
February 3, 2016 at 6:36 pm
My uncle was of the opinion no one in the army was supposed to be assigned to do anything they enjoyed doing or were good at. Especially mess cooks.
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