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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 7, 2016 at 4:19 pm
This is a silly and immature back and forth. Shame on me for having entertained it for as long as I did, but I felt compelled to clear my name of your accusations and straws for anyone else reading.
Nonetheless, I should step out at this point. You are free to think what you want.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 7, 2016 at 4:36 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 4:19 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I disagree with C_L on a lot, but I definitely agree with her sentiment that you need to relax, Brian. Why don't you take it out on one of the more vile people on the forum? There are plenty of them. Take it to the "pop morality" thread, maybe. It's much more deserving of your vitriol.
Vitriol would be "don't ever let a theist post here ever"
Vitriol would be " Have them arrested because they make me want to pull my hair out".
CL was the one who claimed it was ok to be gay and Catholic, and I wasn't the only one to point out the error in that logic, but she kept going.
Now tell me how I am wrong, after SHE admitted she could not prove her claims, I am the bad guy?
No need to defend her at all, if she is right, then she should be able to defend herself. If she is going to respond with "I cant prove it", how is someone responding with "then that should tell you something" make my response "vitriol".
Again, her rights are not the issue, but no, if you keep repeating nonsense after even admitting you have no evidence for it, how is anyone wrong for responding to a naked assertion, because I am not the only one objecting to her claims in this thread.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 7, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 7, 2016 at 4:42 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is a silly and immature back and forth. Shame on me for having entertained it for as long as I did, but I felt compelled to clear my name of your accusations and straws for anyone else reading.
Nonetheless, I should step out at this point. You are free to think what you want.
Immature is what you are doing after admitting you could not prove your position.
Yes step out after you made the naked assertion that it is ok to be a gay Catholic and made it a rights and happiness issue when your objectors were NOT making that the issue. The objectors in this thread have only objected to your bad logic, and you even agreed you had no evidence for your position.
Yes please stop.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 8:11 am
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 9:59 am
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 10:08 am
You'll notice I didn't include Sodom and Gomorrah because that's before the Leviticus direction not to engage in homosexual sex. Therefore at that time no such prohibition was in place. At least according to the Biblical narrative that is.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 10:24 am
(February 8, 2016 at 10:08 am)Aractus Wrote: You'll notice I didn't include Sodom and Gomorrah because that's before the Leviticus direction not to engage in homosexual sex. Therefore at that time no such prohibition was in place. At least according to the Biblical narrative that is.
I still think that is besides the point. The point is ALL holy books are used as weapons regardless of "interpretation". The words are still there to "get wrong" no matter what. That also speaks to the alleged efficiency of this "all powerful" god. If you have this fantastic plan, and your goal is to get everyone on the same page, and have peace, this long convoluted book which people fight over as to what it means seems to be needless drama.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 10:42 am
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 8, 2016 at 10:56 am
CL, we really don't need your input anymore, you said you wanted to stop, and you also admitted you could not prove your position, so do let another Catholic take a shot at it. You jumped in the ring, you had your claims knocked out, now if you insist on continuing, dispense with the complaining.
Are you willing to admit you are wrong, are you just continuing just to save face?
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