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Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
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The bigoted Catholics you're looking for are on the Supreme Court.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
God of Mr. Hanky
Only 1 god, and Mr. Hanky is his profit  Religious Views: Anti-theist, and anti-authoritarian, but I love assholes (February 4, 2016 at 9:04 am)athrock Wrote: I hope it will provide the starting point for some interesting discussion. Give it up, Asshole - that doesn't work anymore!
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Joe Prever wants other people to suffer just like him?
I had seen this before. I really admire someone who can live the celibate life for the sake of doing what they believe is the right thing. I only did it until I got married, and I thought *that* was hard and impressive.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (February 4, 2016 at 9:27 am)Irrational Wrote: Joe Prever wants other people to suffer just like him? This looks like a bit of a straw. Where did he say this?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (February 4, 2016 at 9:33 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(February 4, 2016 at 9:27 am)Irrational Wrote: Joe Prever wants other people to suffer just like him? Did you read this part? Quote:So, yes, it's hard to be gay and Catholic -- it's hard to be anything and Catholic -- because I don't always get to do what I want. Show me a religion where you always get to do what you want and I'll show you a pretty shabby, lazy religion. Something not worth living or dying for, or even getting up in the morning for. That might be the kind of world John Lennon wanted, but John Lennon was kind of an idiot. 
Ah yes, ye olde hate the sin not the sinner routine. It's hard to take seriously someone who simultaneously refers to John Lennon as a kind of idiot, yet wants us to accept his assertion that homosexuality is somehow as harmful as eating sand.
(February 4, 2016 at 9:36 am)Irrational Wrote:(February 4, 2016 at 9:33 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This looks like a bit of a straw. Where did he say this? He says he has a great life and wishes everyone had a life as great as his. That's a far cry from saying "he wants everyone to suffer."
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (February 4, 2016 at 9:38 am)Cato Wrote: Ah yes, ye olde hate the sin not the sinner routine. It's hard to take seriously someone who simultaneously refers to John Lennon as a kind of idiot, yet wants us to accept his assertion that homosexuality is somehow as harmful as eating sand. I agree that his comment about John was out of line. But I don't see the problem with hating the sin, not the sinner. We all do it, whether we use the words "sin/sinner" or not, is just a matter of semantics. If someone from your family did something you thought was immoral, like, if they got caught stealing something, you would still love them, right? You'd hate what they DID... the fact that they stole, but you would still love that person. There is nothing wrong with this concept. imho.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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