Any computer nerds here? Hard reboots

[The Valkyrie]

How I deal with computer problems:

[abaris]

Does the event viewer give you any hint what's going on?

Not really. It throws out a generic error code.

Source: Kernel-Power

Event ID 41

Critical error

That's what I found on a german board.

ja das Catalyst = AMD Catalyst Install Manager ist das Richtige, vollständig entfernen bis auf Chipset AMD 880G und SB850 (AMD Sound Bridge Drivers).

He more or less says that there are software remnants of the onboard card still interfering. I deactivated everything in BIOS and disabled the card completely in hardware monitor, but I didn't remove all of the software, out of fear for my chipset and the audio drivers.

Also I found another possible source for an overheating problem. My own thoughtlessness. My flat has floor heating and this being the winter, it's running. Not the best time to park the rig on the floor. I also installed an auxillary fan at the back of the case, but looking at speedfan, it doesn't do very much.

In any case, Kernel power error 41 can have all kinds of reasons. From overheating to conflicting drivers.

[Minimalist]

You know, I still can't wrap my head around the fact, it happens with vids of all things.

This should be one of the least stressful operations for CPU as well as GPU. GPU doesn't seem to be the problem. It runns stable and the temperatures stay within acceptable parameters. CPU is doing better, since I cleaned the fan.

As for deactivating the onboard card. I already did that when installing the new one, which was a pain in itself, since the BIOS manual only explains one of the steps necessary and skips over the second one, which I had to find out browsing the web. The problem didn't crop up with the new card either. It's been months since I put in the card and the reboots only started two weeks ago, or so.

Min, I don't see the bluescreen. The screens just go black and the rig reboots. But you gave me an idea, since the bluescreen is something that can be activated. Maybe the error code helps in narrowing the roots of the problem down.

That sounds like an excessive heat condition.

[ignoramus]

Nah, no different to running the PC on a hot day.
It may slightly increase temp, but nothing more.
Assuming the fan is working properly.

A misnomer about the heat transfer paste is that it is critical to the system.
In fact, as many know, the block should be making perfect contact with the CPU for maximum heat transfer.
The paste is really to fill in any microscopic cracks between the 2 contact areas.

When applying mine, I basically dob it on and scrape it off with a fresh sharp razor blade till there's practically nothing there.

[bennyboy]

Just a Hail Mary, but try this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S8bLMfH4Gs

[abaris]

Problem is, I'm running win 7 64. That option isn't even available to me. Also, one of the first things I do with every new computer, built or bought, is to disable energy options. I shut my rig down when I feel like it, thank you very much, microsoft.

I did a little more research on the web to narrow the problem down, but it seems to be happening for very different reasons, throwing out the exact same critical error, as the guy in the video says. The only thing I learned is the difference between CPU and core temperature. Core seems to be more important, since it measures the actual core, and that's about ten degrees lower than CPU in my case. And I'm not the only one. Many people report the same.

Now I'm looking into the Origin client. Apart from videos, that piece of junk has a tendency to grace me with a reboot too. I'm more and more leaning towards software conflict. The rig was relatively stable, apart from the time when I still figured out how to completely disable the onboard card. Stable until I installed origin.

[abaris]

On a semi related note - does anyone have experiences with Win 10?

I'm entitled to my free version, but I'm a great escapist when it comes to games. Do the older ones still work? Such as Fallout New Vegas, the Mass Effect series, Skyrim and the likes?

Also, does it leave my installed programs untouched?

Maybe a new and clean system fixes my problem without formatting the whol hard drive,

[pocaracas]

I think your problem is under the name "AMD"

An oldie but goodie:

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As for win10... I did it... I upgraded my 2009 laptop, running win7 to win10.... and it worked, mostly...
Installed programs remained installed and working.
Drivers for a few things got "updated".... my trackpad and webcam drivers then had to be replaced by the correct ones, but I guess it comes with the territory. Once in a while, the nVidia driver stops responding, but recovers in a few seconds, so it's not a major concern.

Because it retains installed programs, I wouldn't call the upgraded system a "new and clean system".

[abaris]

I embarked on the adventure and installed Win 10. Seems to be working fine and so far everything seems to be in good working condition. No hard reboots so far, so it seems to have been some conflicting driver or software issue.

The only thing I don't understand is, why microsoft always feels the need to move their standard applications and settings to places previously unknown whenever a new windows is released. Shouldn't take web research to find system settings.

[ignoramus]

Shhhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhh.... Microsoft knows what's best for us.... Because they care.....