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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 4:05 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 3:51 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Not sure whether this has been discussed before or not, but given Sanders' victory in Michigan last night, and the fact he's consistently getting the independent vote 70-30, *and* assuming that Clinton wins the nomination (not certain but likely at this stage), would it be in Clinton's best interests to have Sanders as the VP?
I feel like it would. There are certainly going to be Sanders supporters who won't vote for Clinton in the general election, but perhaps if he was the VP they might be swayed.
I refuse to vote for Hillary under any condition.
If most Americans are like you, then let's hope Jill Stein becomes the president then.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 4:04 pm)Irrational Wrote: I doubt Sanders would accept being her VP. Might be Elizabeth Warren, though. But many Bernie Sanders supporters are too disappointed with her for not endorsing Sanders to be swayed.
What makes you think that? He's bound to endorse her if she wins the nomination, and overall I think he's pretty selfless so anything he can do to help the Democrats win would be on the table.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 4:17 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 4:04 pm)Irrational Wrote: I doubt Sanders would accept being her VP. Might be Elizabeth Warren, though. But many Bernie Sanders supporters are too disappointed with her for not endorsing Sanders to be swayed.
What makes you think that? He's bound to endorse her if she wins the nomination, and overall I think he's pretty selfless so anything he can do to help the Democrats win would be on the table.
I agree he will endorse her regardless. But being her VP would have to be on his terms which I doubt she would agree to. She doesn't have enough common goals and attitudes with him for this to work as he would want it.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 4:58 pm
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(March 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: What makes you think that? He's bound to endorse her if she wins the nomination, and overall I think he's pretty selfless so anything he can do to help the Democrats win would be on the table.
As far as I observe and understand American politics, signing up for the VP position is a rather sure road to oblivion. Truman, LBJ or Ford being the only exemptions by necessity. And yes, Bush the older. VPs can't move very much and I don't consider Sanders to be a man to put up and shut up.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 5:19 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 4:58 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: What makes you think that? He's bound to endorse her if she wins the nomination, and overall I think he's pretty selfless so anything he can do to help the Democrats win would be on the table.
As far as I observe and understand American politics, signing up for the VP position is a rather sure road to oblivion.
He is 75, so that alone doesn't seem like such a hindrance.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 6:10 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 5:19 pm)Alex K Wrote: He is 75, so that alone doesn't seem like such a hindrance.
But the job is about keeping ones trap shut and to visit foreign leaders occasionally. Doesn't sound like Sanders.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 6:59 pm
(March 8, 2016 at 9:27 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 8, 2016 at 9:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It seems that Sanders has been crushed in Mississippi.
Even the democrats want the establishment to stay in power. What a shame. Bernie is not such a bad guy. I can't understand what people see in that Clinton cunt.
Is it necessary to call her a cunt?
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 7:11 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 4:04 pm)Irrational Wrote: I doubt Sanders would accept being her VP. Might be Elizabeth Warren, though. But many Bernie Sanders supporters are too disappointed with her for not endorsing Sanders to be swayed.
What makes you think that? He's bound to endorse her if she wins the nomination, and overall I think he's pretty selfless so anything he can do to help the Democrats win would be on the table.
Correct. And it would be stupid to subtract democratic votes in the senate just to put another old Caucasian on the ticket. Far better to pick Julian Castro, a young Latino from Texas who is Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. If independents don't think there is a difference between Clinton and Trump then they can go fuck themselves. Let's fire up the Latinos.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 7:12 pm
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 9, 2016 at 7:50 pm
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(March 9, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 4:57 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm not sure of the numbers.
Of course, neither is Trump's campaign manager. And neither are you.
Way to miss the point, Woggy.
Get it through your head: The Dems lost Texas by around 1,500,000 votes in 2012. So it doesn't matter a rat's ass if they add 1 million Hispanic voters. They will still come up short if the Repubs show up.
I'm unsure where you got the idea that I said that that was in Texas alone. Mind quoting and linking that alleged post?
In the future, perhaps you should read for comprehension, rather than out of defensiveness. The internet is no place for insecure folks.
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