Trump versus Clinton?

[Thumpalumpacus]

So do you think Hillary will be able to conquer Iran?  She wants to do it free of charge for Israel.  At least Trump would make the Israelis pay for it.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen, even if she's elected.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

So do you think Hillary will be able to conquer Iran?  She wants to do it free of charge for Israel.  At least Trump would make the Israelis pay for it.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen, even if she's elected.

So that's another one of her lies!

[downbeatplumb]

He was a successful leader who won battles regularly. He had a different approach to the Americans who went at things hell for leather and threw resources at problems but he was no slouch. I would argue that your view is coloured by the side of the atlantic you sit on.

Like any general, he had his flaws. He was not at his best in a war of mobility.

Also, I thought Dorfl was Irish?

Ah the southern Irish. Google their uniforms  during the thirties, had a distinctly "third reich" feel about them.

[Minimalist]

Funny that the Western Allies failed to see that.  No.  Give Hitler his due.  He weeded out the old Prussian war horses and let the younger officers (Guderian, Rommel and, perhaps most of all Von Manstein) who had impressed him with their ideas have their head.  Manstein's initial plan for Fall Gelb was rejected by the staff officers but Hitler backed it. 

Napoleon did not develop the tactics that La Grande Armee used either... but he used them to their utmost.

Abaris has already replied, but in context it seemed to me that his reference was to political and not military tactics.

You're right in the sense that Hitler detested much of the officer corps for their noble background, and was happy to support dark horses in high spots. Hitler was not, however, a big fan of Rommel's, given the latter's willingness to trade space for time, which is why he kept von Rundstedt in charge in France over Rommel in 1944, and compromised on their mutually-exclusive suggestions for panzer-division deployment -- thankfully for the Allied cause.

And eventually all three that you mentioned, and others as well, fell afoul of Hitler's wrath and were sacked -- or in Rommel's case, killed for involvement in the attentat.

What he later did in 1944 did not detract from his moves in 1940.  Those three...and many others...found themselves in the shitter as the army failed to magically pull off victory from an impossible military situation, first on the Eastern front and then everywhere else.

[Minimalist]

[Minimalist]

So do you think Hillary will be able to conquer Iran?  She wants to do it free of charge for Israel.  At least Trump would make the Israelis pay for it.

Conquer Iran? 

After we did so well in Iraq?  Iran has more than double the population of Iraq and they are not conveniently divided into ethnic groups who hate each other so we could play one off against the other.  Time to put your dreams of military glory on the side.

[abaris]

Ah the southern Irish. Google their uniforms  during the thirties, had a distinctly "third reich" feel about them.

That helmet is WWI. Instead of jumping to simplistic conclusions, compare the british and the German one. The reason why many nations modelled their helmets after the German fashion is the better protection for the wearer. It covers the neck region too. If you look at the modern US army standard, it's basically the same design.

[Pat Mustard]

[scoobysnack]

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm sure the Clintons are the only lying, scheming politicians.

No, really.