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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 9, 2016 at 5:31 am
(March 9, 2016 at 4:03 am)paulpablo Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 1:01 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: https://www.princeton.edu/main/news/arch...topstories
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/20...hed-minds/
But in the video you got to a point and said "Now dealing with the claims of racists" Then went onto say low IQ is caused by poverty according to these articles. But what are the actual claims of racists?
The only claim that I would make is that people from different regions show some trends in having higher or lower IQ and higher or lower intelligence. Also trends associated with being different in other ways, like being better or worse at certain sports and so on.
Just in the same way people from certain regions in Africa are better sprinters than most other people in the world, Jewish people and Asian people occupy jobs which require a certain level and certain type of intelligence. Jewish people tend to dominate finance and law, Asian people from specific areas of Asia tend to dominate IT jobs and other jobs requiring high intelligence.
This claim doesn't have much to do with race it's just regional, there are different body types in different regions of Africa aswell as Asia and they don't permeate throughout all black people or all Asian people.
The claim racists make is that black people on average have a lower IQ, and then they come to the conclusion that this is proof that black people are inferior. I suppose I should have stated the claim then debunked it, but seeing as how it was made mostly for racist people who already hold such an opinion I figured I'd just cut right to the debunking of said argument.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm
I really don't see the significance of debating skin color. The whole white privilege thing really showed how weak it was. Do all whites succeed through white privilege? Are all Asians better at math? Are all x better then y because of skin color? It's really a joke, but those who subscribe to it believe it's all that matters. Black lives matters, or do all lives matter?
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 15, 2016 at 6:09 am
(March 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I really don't see the significance of debating skin color. The whole white privilege thing really showed how weak it was. Do all whites succeed through white privilege? Are all Asians better at math? Are all x better then y because of skin color? It's really a joke, but those who subscribe to it believe it's all that matters. Black lives matters, or do all lives matter?
Saying "all lives matter" is like going to green peace who have signs saying "save the whales" and then saying, "No, save all animals." Sometimes certain groups of people need the spotlight on them when they are being mistreated.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 12:39 am
(March 15, 2016 at 6:09 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: (March 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I really don't see the significance of debating skin color. The whole white privilege thing really showed how weak it was. Do all whites succeed through white privilege? Are all Asians better at math? Are all x better then y because of skin color? It's really a joke, but those who subscribe to it believe it's all that matters. Black lives matters, or do all lives matter?
Saying "all lives matter" is like going to green peace who have signs saying "save the whales" and then saying, "No, save all animals." Sometimes certain groups of people need the spotlight on them when they are being mistreated.
Saying black lives matter, I understand is a way to put the focus on black lives, but what you don't realize it's purpose it to also sideline the rest. Think of it as white lives matter. I bet most people's initial reaction is racists, or white supremacy. I've been reading up on the communist party USA just for fun lately, because of all the marxists on this forum. Seems to be the common divide and conquer technique to trigger revolution:
http://www.cpusa.org/
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 8:31 am
(March 19, 2016 at 12:39 am)scoobysnack Wrote: (March 15, 2016 at 6:09 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Saying "all lives matter" is like going to green peace who have signs saying "save the whales" and then saying, "No, save all animals." Sometimes certain groups of people need the spotlight on them when they are being mistreated.
Saying black lives matter, I understand is a way to put the focus on black lives, but what you don't realize it's purpose it to also sideline the rest. Think of it as white lives matter. I bet most people's initial reaction is racists, or white supremacy. I've been reading up on the communist party USA just for fun lately, because of all the marxists on this forum. Seems to be the common divide and conquer technique to trigger revolution:
http://www.cpusa.org/
How are we all Marxist for wanting everyone to be treated equally? I don't want to see equality of outcomes, I just want to see equality of opportunity. Even Thunderf00t has recognized that there are real instances where inequality occurs in America, due to our racist history.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 8:46 am
(March 8, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwokbVo48cI
This is what life boils down to and it is way past time more humans accept this.
EVOLUTION... Which is why the "not all" argument is not an argument. Fear of the unknown and unfamiliar is a coping mechanism, but, without a evolutionary scientific understanding of this, we instead as a species, create our groups around ideas, and those patters DO set up safety in numbers. The problem with that is the dark side is that we become tribal and that dark side causes conflict, most of the time needlessly.
But when you talk about brain function, it is a matter of which part of the brain is more dominate that will determine if someone is more empathetic and those who are more sociopathic with little to no empathy. Both exist and unfortunately evolution does not care which wins.
But we can chose to be more aware of reality and foster more of the empathetic side of our species. I do agree that economic conservatism represents the selfish side of our species, and even atheist Ayn Rand took that position. I also agree that religious conservatives ALSO represent the selfish side of our species morso religious tribalism, but as we see it can be combined with wealth too. Some Arab States are very wealthy and at the same time also very theocratic.
But then, there is the good side of our species, the empathetic side. Including theists, although I'd suggest to them that their empathy really is in them, and not the religion itself.
But yea, on average, I do agree with the video as to the roots of racism.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 8:54 am
(March 8, 2016 at 3:28 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I don't see how anyone could prove that poverty causes low IQ.
It isn't that poverty causes low IQ, it is because poverty prevents education, an to a very literally degree, that also affects your environment, and lack of clean resources and clean food and clean environment affects your health and creates more disease and birth defects and damage to your body and brain and that does have an impact on IQ, as an average.
For the same reason lead was taken out of paint. The rich companies got away with selling it for a long time, and just like FLINT and water today, that type of pollution mostly affects the poor and causes more health problems in pregnant women and kids that are poor.
Pollution does affect IQ and those who don't have the resources to seek medical care long term are going to have their health directly more affected than someone who does have the resources.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 8:58 am
(March 19, 2016 at 12:39 am)scoobysnack Wrote: (March 15, 2016 at 6:09 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Saying "all lives matter" is like going to green peace who have signs saying "save the whales" and then saying, "No, save all animals." Sometimes certain groups of people need the spotlight on them when they are being mistreated.
Saying black lives matter, I understand is a way to put the focus on black lives, but what you don't realize it's purpose it to also sideline the rest. Think of it as white lives matter. I bet most people's initial reaction is racists, or white supremacy. I've been reading up on the communist party USA just for fun lately, because of all the marxists on this forum. Seems to be the common divide and conquer technique to trigger revolution:
http://www.cpusa.org/
No, saying black lives matter was the focus of protest, because the issue at hand was black lives being taken. Saying all lives matter is a way of trying to take the spotlight off the issue at hand.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 19, 2016 at 7:45 pm
(March 19, 2016 at 8:58 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: (March 19, 2016 at 12:39 am)scoobysnack Wrote: Saying black lives matter, I understand is a way to put the focus on black lives, but what you don't realize it's purpose it to also sideline the rest. Think of it as white lives matter. I bet most people's initial reaction is racists, or white supremacy. I've been reading up on the communist party USA just for fun lately, because of all the marxists on this forum. Seems to be the common divide and conquer technique to trigger revolution:
http://www.cpusa.org/
No, saying black lives matter was the focus of protest, because the issue at hand was black lives being taken. Saying all lives matter is a way of trying to take the spotlight off the issue at hand.
Sure black lives matter, everyone agrees with that, but the problem is blm is disagreeing that all lives matter. The majority of everyone doesn't want to fight with eachother, and the vast majority is not racist at all. Yet we have these leftist funded groups trying to divide everyone with identity politics. This is just another color revolution that is funded by big money. A lot of it is liberal white guilt, and communists behind the scenes. Most blm wouldn't identify with communism, but when you dig deeper, it constantly leads to them.
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RE: Just A Video Debunking Racists
March 20, 2016 at 9:38 am
(March 19, 2016 at 7:45 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: (March 19, 2016 at 8:58 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: No, saying black lives matter was the focus of protest, because the issue at hand was black lives being taken. Saying all lives matter is a way of trying to take the spotlight off the issue at hand.
Sure black lives matter, everyone agrees with that, but the problem is blm is disagreeing that all lives matter. The majority of everyone doesn't want to fight with eachother, and the vast majority is not racist at all. Yet we have these leftist funded groups trying to divide everyone with identity politics. This is just another color revolution that is funded by big money. A lot of it is liberal white guilt, and communists behind the scenes. Most blm wouldn't identify with communism, but when you dig deeper, it constantly leads to them.
Really? So the BLM movement wants everyone to live in a nation wide commune where there are no classes, property is publicly owned, there is no money only trade, and where everyone is paid to their needs?
I don't see the BLM movement wanting communism in any way.
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