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What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 5:41 pm
Hey guys
I'm interested in knowing your opinion/thoughts on the following passage from the Quran:
Quote:And when God is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter shrink with aversion, but when those other than Him are mentioned, behold! they are glad
Say, "O God, Creator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the witnessed and the unseen, You alone will judge between your creation concerning that over which they used to differ."
And if those who did wrong had all that is in the earth, and therewith as much again, they verily will seek to ransom themselves therewith on the Day of Resurrection from the awful doom; and there will appear unto them, from their Lord, that wherewith they never reckoned.
And there will appear to them the evils they had earned, and there they will be enveloped by what they used to ridicule.
And when adversity touches man, he calls upon Us; then when We bestow on him a favor from Us, he says, "I have triumphed only because of my own knowledge."
Nay, but it is only a test. But man does not believe.
your thoughts? feelings?
I guess I'm interested in hearing more thoughts about this 'coz am flip-flopping these days between theism and atheism  
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 5:43 pm
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 5:47 pm
Vague threats by a creator deity? Why, I never! 
Serious reply: a bunch of vaguely threatening bullshit designed to keep the followers in line. Hardly unique, hardly compelling.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 5:57 pm
I've never taken well to being threatened. If Allah tries to fuck with me on 'the day of resurrection', I'll bust him right in the mush.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 5:59 pm
Just another section of the fantasy story. Not a very good section either. There is no action, no pizzazz. Killing with the jaw bone of an ass, talking flaming bushes, mass executions, that's the parts of the fantasy story worth paying attention to.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Fun exercise - replace all references to 'god' with something/someone else.
Quote:And when Ryan Reynolds is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter shrink with aversion, but when those other than Him are mentioned, behold! they are glad
Say, "O Ryan, Canuck of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the witnessed and the unseen, You alone will judge between your creation concerning that over which they used to differ."
And if those who did wrong had all that is in the earth, and therewith as much again, they verily will seek to ransom themselves therewith on the Day of Resurrection from the awful doom; and there will appear unto them, from their Lord, that wherewith they never reckoned.
And there will appear to them the evils they had earned, and there they will be enveloped by what they used to ridicule.
And when adversity touches man, he calls upon Us; then when We bestow on him a favor from Us, he says, "I have triumphed only because of my own knowledge."
Nay, but it is only a test. But man does not believe.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 6:18 pm
Thanks you guys 
But here's the thing ... when I think about it, there is a 50-50 chance of this happening, which sounds like a huge risk to me ...
do you think there is something wrong with my reasoning/line-of-thought??
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm
It's stupid shit....like the rest of the koran.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm
(March 14, 2016 at 6:18 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: Thanks you guys
But here's the thing ... when I think about it, there is a 50-50 chance of this happening, which sounds like a huge risk to me ...
do you think there is something wrong with my reasoning/line-of-thought??
Why do you think there's a 50-50 chance?
Seriously, where's your evidence that this particular god creature exists? Note: your holy tome is the claim. It needs to be backed up with evidence. Please provide it.
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RE: What do you think of this passage?
March 14, 2016 at 6:31 pm
(March 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why do you think there's a 50-50 chance?
Seriously, where's your evidence that this particular god creature exists? Note: your holy tome is the claim. It needs to be backed up with evidence. Please provide it.
You are absolutely right  Its only a claim. And that's exactly why I've been looking up evidence against/or for god, and I always reach a dead end. Its all just a big fat plausibility, hence my 50-50 conclusion.
If there was no risk of all that hereafter quagmire happening, then I would've completely dismissed the god claim
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