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Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 8:34 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 8:22 pm)Felasco Wrote:
(March 22, 2016 at 7:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So you expect us to take fairy tales seriously?

No, not really.   Just making the option available.  I see the option is declined, and that's ok, no problem.

It was not a realistic option.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 8:37 pm (This post was last modified: March 22, 2016 at 8:37 pm by Felasco.)
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It was not a realistic option.
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Agreed.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 8:51 pm
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 8:56 pm (This post was last modified: March 22, 2016 at 8:56 pm by Simon Moon.)
(March 22, 2016 at 8:37 pm)Felasco Wrote: [quote pid='1230532' dateline='1458693296']
It was not a realistic option.

Quote:Agreed.


So, you agree that the Adam and Eve myth should not be taken seriously.

Seems obvious.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 9:07 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(March 22, 2016 at 3:19 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Please don't make me believe you're an idiot, though I'm beginning to get to that point. I said God did not hold him (Adam) responsible for an evil act, God did as He promised and punished Adam and Eve exactly as He said He would if they disobeyed Him.

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You're an idiot; respond to this question:

What question, I see no question mark do you.


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jehanne Wrote:Why are Southern Baptists, as a whole, willing to sentence individuals to death based solely upon DNA evidence, when that same evidence refutes the belief that human beings descended from one couple, a man (Adam) and a woman (Eve)?
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  What makes you think that Southern Baptist as a whole believe in the death penalty. That is personal decisions people make and not all Southern Baptist believe in the death penalty. DNA has it's limits when going back in time, so the evidence you so tout hasn't refuted Adam and Eve. personally I believe in the death penalty in certain cases, each case holds it's own merits.

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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 9:10 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 6:09 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(March 22, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: ...she believed Satan over her husband, so God gave her a desire to obey him ...

(my bold)

... she believed Satan over her husband, so god took away her free will ...

Fixed that for you.  No thanks necessary.

You fixed nothing only prove you're childish and have no understanding of this conversation or what free will is.

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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 9:14 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:
(March 22, 2016 at 3:19 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Please don't make me believe you're an idiot, though I'm beginning to get to that point. I said God did not hold him (Adam) responsible for an evil act, God did as He promised and punished Adam and Eve exactly as He said He would if they disobeyed Him.

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He punished them for disobedience.  Therefore he held them accountable for disobedience.  I proved from the passage in Jeremiah that disobedience to God is equivalent to evil.  Therefore he held them accountable for evil.  But they were unaware of good and evil until after they committed the act.

Now I'm convinced you are a childish idiot, I showed you a few post back that God wouldn't hold Adam to an evil act because he didn't know what evil was. You can argue this stupid stance till you die and it still want be the truth. I'm finished with you and your childish ways. Grow up please.

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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 9:16 pm (This post was last modified: March 22, 2016 at 9:46 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
Yeah, grow up. A story involving talking animals and a magical tree is serious business.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 10:00 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 9:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: You fixed nothing only prove you're childish and have no understanding of this conversation or what free will is.

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It is obvious that you do not understand what free will is and will never know as long as your god has you under it's thumb. You believe faery tales are real and I am childish?
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 22, 2016 at 10:30 pm
Adam and Eve is just a stupid misogynistic fairy tale written by people trying to explain their origins, not understanding things like genetics, or the fact that snakes can't talk.

Seriously. Just think about Adam just 'coming into being'. The development of language would have been impossible for him without another human being around.

Adam: Hmmm... what's this thing that's going on with my mouth and my head? How do I know what these things are? Holy shit I'm freaking out here. Freaking out.... FUUUUUUUUCK

Think about when he had kids.

Adam: HOLY SHIT! What's that? Why are they so tiny!? I was never this tiny! YOU WERE NEVER THIS TINY! WHAT ARE THESE THINGS? I was expecting something a little bigger! We'll call him Cain. Okay Cain, go work in the field! Uhh... I don't think he's listening to me.

Eve: Cain, go work the fields with Adam.

Adam: THIS MAN DOES NOT LISTEN! Let's go have another one. Maybe the next one will listen. Cain won't even eat the food I give him.
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