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If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
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 (August 9, 2010 at 8:49 am)Spencer Wrote: heaven is so easy to get into these days, thanks to Jesus dying for our sins right? What a guy. Except for the 'belief clause'. Jesus died for our sins, so that we can get into heaven, but only if we believe in him and 'let him into our hearts'. Those of us that do not believe he was the son of god don't get a ticket.  (August 9, 2010 at 10:35 am)Paul the Human Wrote:(August 9, 2010 at 8:49 am)Spencer Wrote: heaven is so easy to get into these days, thanks to Jesus dying for our sins right? What a guy. Ill just scalp me one at the gate, I'm sure there will be some lost soul selling! Do you want to go early and tailgate? Ill bring the beer. 
Why is it you guys believe that the only reason Christ died was so people could go to heaven, you are missing most of the reason He died for us. A number of atheist on this site say they have read the entire Bible so how is it that you missed so much of what Christ's death really does mean!!!
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (August 9, 2010 at 3:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why is it you guys believe that the only reason Christ died was so people could go to heaven, you are missing most of the reason He died for us. A number of atheist on this site say they have read the entire Bible so how is it that you missed so much of what Christ's death really does mean!!! And your take (read interpretation) on this so called miraculous "death" is??? "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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