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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 20, 2016 at 7:10 pm
(March 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm)maestroanth Wrote: For example, recently I was debating with a guy whether if perfect pitch is a 'learned ability' or an ability people are simply 'born-with it'. I have perfect pitch and I learned it about 13 years ago as a teenager and my skill actually exceeded many of those that were 'born-with-it'. Anyway, so my argument was simple: Since obviously our notation system is a man-made system, and not made by nature, obviously there is no way to be 'born-with-it'.
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 20, 2016 at 7:56 pm
A new creationist always comes around thinking that they have the answer. Have yet to see one but that does not stop them.
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm
(March 20, 2016 at 6:21 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Dude... what's an "intensive purpose"?
A mangling of "intents and purposes" maybe?
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 21, 2016 at 2:20 am
(March 20, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Alex K Wrote: The Nye-Ham debate might have exposed some kids there for the first time to a straight representation of how evolution works and what it is.
To me, this is the benefit of debates. The audience at home can think about what's being said, learn some things, and maybe be brought round to a more rational way of thinking. This is the intended target.
If you remove that audience, for example in a private debate with an entrenched theist, there is probably no point at all.
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 21, 2016 at 2:33 am
Nothing is really pointless. Everything has a point. The point of Evolution and creation debates are to try and debunk the opposing side of what someone defines as truth. I learned a lot from these debates. Tiktallik (i probably spelled that wrong, spellcheck is disabled on my phone for some reason),and Pre-Cambrian fossils. Hell, it was the debates mainly that led me to the conclusion that since we have no evidence for a god of any kind, then he probably doesnt exist.
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 25, 2016 at 11:00 pm
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 26, 2016 at 1:46 am
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(March 20, 2016 at 7:10 pm)IATIA Wrote: (March 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm)maestroanth Wrote: For example, recently I was debating with a guy whether if perfect pitch is a 'learned ability' or an ability people are simply 'born-with it'. I have perfect pitch and I learned it about 13 years ago as a teenager and my skill actually exceeded many of those that were 'born-with-it'. Anyway, so my argument was simple: Since obviously our notation system is a man-made system, and not made by nature, obviously there is no way to be 'born-with-it'.
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(March 26, 2016 at 1:46 am)maestroanth Wrote: (March 20, 2016 at 7:10 pm)IATIA Wrote: Birds? Whales?
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 26, 2016 at 1:51 am
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 26, 2016 at 2:05 am
It's often pointless because creationists want to debate facts - something I refuse to do. If something is classified as a fact it's because there is no more room for debate. The debate's over. Such is the case with evolution. It's NOT the case with abiogenesis but we do KNOW present lifeforms have evolved from simpler ones over a period of several billion years. I firmly believe that debating said fact gives false justification that there is any doubt that it is fact. So not only is it pointless, it's harmful and misleading.
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RE: Aren't Science vs. Creation Debates......rather pointless?
March 26, 2016 at 2:25 am
(March 20, 2016 at 7:10 pm)IATIA Wrote: (March 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm)maestroanth Wrote: For example, recently I was debating with a guy whether if perfect pitch is a 'learned ability' or an ability people are simply 'born-with it'. I have perfect pitch and I learned it about 13 years ago as a teenager and my skill actually exceeded many of those that were 'born-with-it'. Anyway, so my argument was simple: Since obviously our notation system is a man-made system, and not made by nature, obviously there is no way to be 'born-with-it'.
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