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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 4:11 am
(March 30, 2016 at 6:58 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 30, 2016 at 6:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don't doubt that Mr. Trump helped this woman, and that it was, in and of itself, a good act. But sporadic acts of goodness do not a good person make.
Unless you are good 100% of the time, you are a bad person.
Binary religious thinking.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-37549.html
But then I've called Kusa religious minded before ...
(February 17, 2016 at 3:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: And oh look, another gun thread from a religious minded gun nut. If a dog or small child was this fixated on a single object it would be taken off to a psychologist.
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 4:52 am
(March 30, 2016 at 7:26 pm)KUSA Wrote: Does anyone here think Hillary is actually a good person?
I look at good or bad as a spectrum rather than categorical. To answer your answer, Hillary is ... ok ... for a politician ... I would put her somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, maybe leaning more to the bad side.
Trump, though, is definitely closer to the bad end of the spectrum (where the ideal worst lies) than Hillary is.
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Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 7:06 am
(March 31, 2016 at 4:11 am)Mathilda Wrote: (March 30, 2016 at 6:58 pm)KUSA Wrote: Unless you are good 100% of the time, you are a bad person.
Binary religious thinking.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-37549.html
But then I've called Kusa religious minded before ...
(February 17, 2016 at 3:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: And oh look, another gun thread from a religious minded gun nut. If a dog or small child was this fixated on a single object it would be taken off to a psychologist.
I was trying to make a point but you couldn't understand it.
At what point does someone go from good to bad? It's very subjective.
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 7:50 am
(March 31, 2016 at 7:06 am)KUSA Wrote: At what point does someone go from good to bad? It's very subjective.
They don't.
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 8:22 am
(March 31, 2016 at 7:06 am)KUSA Wrote: (March 31, 2016 at 4:11 am)Mathilda Wrote: Binary religious thinking.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-37549.html
But then I've called Kusa religious minded before ...
I was trying to make a point but you couldn't understand it.
At what point does someone go from good to bad? It's very subjective.
You have to have a point in the first place to make one. You have nothing but word salad.
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Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 8:32 am
(March 31, 2016 at 8:22 am)Brian37 Wrote: You have to have a point in the first place to make one. You have nothing but word salad.
Well why don't you toss my salad then?
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 10:00 am
(March 31, 2016 at 3:23 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are no innocents in war. Everyone is a fighter and legitmate target.
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 12:00 pm
(March 31, 2016 at 10:00 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (March 31, 2016 at 3:23 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are no innocents in war. Everyone is a fighter and legitmate target.
And Wyrd of Gawd is too stupid to understand we are not a separate species. Having war to gain peace is like fucking for virginity. Anyone who thinks like this should not be trusted with power. While war does happen, it should not be a default or considered an act of diplomacy.
No Wyrd of Gawd, not everyone is a fighter or a legitimate target moron. That is what the Geneva Conventions were about, to say no to the asshole actions of Hitler and Stalin and Imperial Japan. I find it fucking sick that the gung ho assholes rightfully claim the west is better with human rights, and we are, only to say stupid shit like WOG.
War is an unfortunate part of our species, and yes it is hell, but that does not mean blanket solutions are good policy.
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 12:03 pm
Quote:That is what the Geneva Conventions were about, to say no to the asshole actions of Hitler and Stalin and Imperial Japan.
But not Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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RE: Donald Trump is a good person
March 31, 2016 at 2:33 pm
(March 31, 2016 at 12:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:That is what the Geneva Conventions were about, to say no to the asshole actions of Hitler and Stalin and Imperial Japan.
But not Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Who said we were right for that? My X was Japanese and her grandfather served for Japan. I am talking about now and if we point to things like Saudi Arabia or Iran or North Korea or even China, it makes it hard to claim the moral high ground if we have shit like Abu Grab.
Never claimed the west was perfect at all. We've done some really shitty things.But when you talk about daily life and treatment of minorities we still do a far better job. If I had my way Bush and Cheney would be brought up on charges. But we have to face the fact that a civil war and global conflict might result. Life is messy and sometimes you cant get the bad guy because the bigger picture is global.
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