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Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 2:04 am)ignoramus Wrote: If there's only one true god, why is the bible full of imposters?

And why does it accept them as real. Commandment the second : I am the lord thy god, thou shalt not have strange gods before me. This is a clear statement of accepance of the existence of gods plural.
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#22
RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
They are all pieces of the same God. Satan is the creator God over earth. He is also Zeus or Allah. This is why you are to fear him because he can put you into Hell after you die. Every continent on earth talks about this place but the name is different. You win by kindness, courage, & wisdom. The wizard of Oz is also in the bible. Most fables are branches of the same narrative. They are made that way for us to put the pieces together. This is what our God wants - The truth. Because that is our God. He plays this game and tries to trick us. We have to follow the yellow brick road.

2 Corintheans 4:4 - Satan, who is the god of this world

Job 1 - There once was a man named Job who lived in the land of Uz.
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
You are a very funny person.

You are in no position to have any idea of what god is or wants, but hey, don't let that stop you from telling us all about it! hehehe
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
Right, picture the scene...

You're all powerful. You have no peers. No one can touch you.

Why would you need to order people not to worship "other gods"? Maybe God does not know he has no peers. Whoops, that's a problem for his omniscience.

If I saw people worshipping some piece of shit golden monkey or something, how much would I care about that? Well, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care whether they worshipped me either. Why would I? I can do what I want. I can just remove the golden monkey from history, if I suddenly see it as a problem. I'd be more concerned with stopping people ass-raping kids, if I was concerned at all. And I'd wonder why I allowed that in the first place.
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 6:09 am)Love333 Wrote: They are all pieces of the same God. Satan is the creator God over earth. He is also Zeus or Allah. This is why you are to fear him because he can put you into Hell after you die. Every continent on earth talks about this place but the name is different. You win by kindness, courage, & wisdom. The wizard of Oz is also in the bible. Most fables are branches of the same narrative. They are made that way for us to put the pieces together. This is what our God wants - The truth. Because that is our God. He plays this game and tries to trick us. We have to follow the yellow brick road.

2 Corintheans 4:4 - Satan, who is the god of this world

Job 1 - There once was a man named Job who lived in the land of Uz.

If you want to troll here, could you make some effort to be clever about it please?

If not for me, do it for the chiders.
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 2:04 am)ignoramus Wrote: If there's only one true god, why is the bible full of imposters?
And why does the one true god need people to fight for him?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 8:14 am)robvalue Wrote: Right, picture the scene...

You're all powerful. You have no peers. No one can touch you.

Why would you need to order people not to worship "other gods"? Maybe God does not know he has no peers. Whoops, that's a problem for his omniscience.

If I saw people worshipping some piece of shit golden monkey or something, how much would I care about that? Well, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care whether they worshipped me either. Why would I? I can do what I want. I can just remove the golden monkey from history, if I suddenly see it as a problem. I'd be more concerned with stopping people ass-raping kids, if I was concerned at all. And I'd wonder why I allowed that in the first place.

Yeah, this is where it gets outright weird with Christians.

God creates people, knowing they'll be tainted with Original Sin and destined for hell.  His method of salvation for him is to demand their belief in something that seems quite literally unbelievable.  Yeah, he 'sacrificed' a part of himself/his son, but it really wasn't much of a sacrifice on the cosmic scale (dude came back, he's fine).  But, basically, we're on our own.

And god apparently wants us to believe in him so we can pester him for all eternity up in heaven.  But billions of us will die because he doesn't really stack the deck in favor of us having enough to go on in order to actually believe in him.

I don't get why god would actually want to spend eternity with a bunch of inferior creatures.  Especially when none of the trials we face on earth can actually prepare us for paradise.  It's not like good character is useful in a world with no wants or pain.  Even our appreciation for such a realm would necessarily diminish as we got used to it.

None of it makes sense.  It's just robotic platitudes and sayings regurgitated without thought behind them.  "He wants a relationship with you!  He wants you by his side!"  Why?  What does he get out of it?
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 9:34 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:
(May 17, 2016 at 6:09 am)Love333 Wrote: They are all pieces of the same God. Satan is the creator God over earth. He is also Zeus or Allah. This is why you are to fear him because he can put you into Hell after you die. Every continent on earth talks about this place but the name is different. You win by kindness, courage, & wisdom. The wizard of Oz is also in the bible. Most fables are branches of the same narrative. They are made that way for us to put the pieces together. This is what our God wants - The truth. Because that is our God. He plays this game and tries to trick us. We have to follow the yellow brick road.

2 Corintheans 4:4 - Satan, who is the god of this world

Job 1 - There once was a man named Job who lived in the land of Uz.

If you want to troll here, could you make some effort to be clever about it please?

If not for me, do it for the chiders.

Have you ever been curious enough to compare these popular Gods in how similar they really are? What really makes Satan so different from Allah or Zeus?

If I sound clever I am crazy but if I am too simple I sound dull. Maybe it is you that are deaf.

Why is the saying "Luke I am your father" so well known? Luke then kills his father. Because it is based on truth. Just like Zeus kills his father and Jesus kills his. When you defeat God you become him. The water in baptism represents purity. It is the opposite of fire. You are not baptized in fire. But you do eventually become it if you win the game. You become the LIGHT the SUN of God the FIRE. You think Buddha won through evil? Krishna won through love. It is the same narrative.

As a dog is loyal as a cat is curious is the way of truth.

(May 17, 2016 at 1:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(May 17, 2016 at 8:14 am)robvalue Wrote: Right, picture the scene...

You're all powerful. You have no peers. No one can touch you.

Why would you need to order people not to worship "other gods"? Maybe God does not know he has no peers. Whoops, that's a problem for his omniscience.

If I saw people worshipping some piece of shit golden monkey or something, how much would I care about that? Well, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care whether they worshipped me either. Why would I? I can do what I want. I can just remove the golden monkey from history, if I suddenly see it as a problem. I'd be more concerned with stopping people ass-raping kids, if I was concerned at all. And I'd wonder why I allowed that in the first place.

Yeah, this is where it gets outright weird with Christians.

God creates people, knowing they'll be tainted with Original Sin and destined for hell.  His method of salvation for him is to demand their belief in something that seems quite literally unbelievable.  Yeah, he 'sacrificed' a part of himself/his son, but it really wasn't much of a sacrifice on the cosmic scale (dude came back, he's fine).  But, basically, we're on our own.

And god apparently wants us to believe in him so we can pester him for all eternity up in heaven.  But billions of us will die because he doesn't really stack the deck in favor of us having enough to go on in order to actually believe in him.

I don't get why god would actually want to spend eternity with a bunch of inferior creatures.  Especially when none of the trials we face on earth can actually prepare us for paradise.  It's not like good character is useful in a world with no wants or pain.  Even our appreciation for such a realm would necessarily diminish as we got used to it.

None of it makes sense.  It's just robotic platitudes and sayings regurgitated without thought behind them.  "He wants a relationship with you!  He wants you by his side!"  Why?  What does he get out of it?
So you don't think ruling Hell would be fun as you enter into the world of Mars after you used Venus to get you past earth?

Venus is the God of Love. It is what all major religions preach. Mars comes after Earth and represents War.
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RE: Elohim and Yahweh are 2 Different Gods
(May 17, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Love333 Wrote: Have you ever been curious enough to compare these popular Gods in how similar they really are? What really makes Satan so different from Allah or Zeus?

That is because they are all human creations and reflect their creators, most especially the worst parts.

Quote:If I sound clever I am crazy but if I am too simple I sound dull. Maybe it is you that are deaf.

Nah, I'm not deaf, my doctor'd have told me. You're just thick as shit though.

Quote:Why is the saying "Luke I am your father" so well known? Luke then kills his father. Because it is based on truth. Just like Zeus kills his father and Jesus kills his. When you defeat God you become him. The water in baptism represents purity. It is the opposite of fire. You are not baptized in fire. But you do eventually become it if you win the game. You become the LIGHT the SUN of God the FIRE. You think Buddha won through evil? Krishna won through love. It is the same narrative.

You ever read the book The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Lucas did, and he is quite open that that book is where he got quite a few ideas for Star Wars, most especially the hero's journey. The fact of the matter is, most of those stories will have some similarities in them, and some common themes, because there are only so many story archetypes to go around. And when you want to tell the story of a hero that limits you even more. We may be an imaginative species, but the scope of our imagination is limited to what we can experience.

Quote:As a dog is loyal as a cat is curious is the way of truth.

As a pope craps in the wood, Love333 is as thick as shit.
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And rushing in to straighten things out are the Mormons with their belief Adam = God = Archangel Michael and probably some more  befuddlement  er, clarification that eludes me at the moment.
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