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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 1:33 am
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 1:34 am by robvalue.)
No problem.
I still can't give sensible answers to your questions with no context. Words have lots of different meanings. I can pull out arbitrary meanings based on arbitrary contexts, but I don't know what the point is unless this is a psychological experiment.
Human: Homo sapien
Freedom: Not constrained
I can't be any more specific without something to chew on.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 1:05 pm
We are free but our wills are not.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 4:03 pm
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Free agency, but not free willpower.
"Free willpower" is an oxymoron.
The will is a force that compels the free agent, who is free in the sense that he is free to be a human, but he still ultimately is motivated and forced by his will.
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 4:07 pm
To what does the will compel the agent? In other words, fill in the blank:
The will is a force that compels the free agent to _________.
What does "being human" mean?
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Compels the free agent to act.
I just mean we have free agency in the sense we have free will in the compatabilist sense, but that was always a no-brainer anyway so to use compatabilism as an answer to free will is just to dodge the real quesion
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RE: Human Freedom
April 15, 2016 at 4:14 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 4:15 pm by Ignorant.)
I'm not too interested in compatabilism. I agree that it just dodges the actual issue.
What determines the [edit] act towards which the will compels the free agent?
