'Merica gets punked by russians: Europeans better learn to speak russian

[abaris]

I certainly don't want to give a lecture to someone living in Poland, but the current government is as abyssmal as they come. And I'm saying that in fear of something like that happening in my own country.

[Ivan Denisovich]

I certainly don't want to give a lecture to someone living in Poland, but the current government is as abyssmal as they come. And I'm saying that in fear of something like that happening in my own country.

I agree with you - I think that current gov is authoritarian, clerical failure. It's only that I don't consider Wałęsa as someone worth listening to.

[abaris]

It's only that I don't consider Wałęsa as someone worth listening to.

I said even. Usually I don't listen to much of what he has to say either, but if he's opposed to something being relatively up his avenue, it says something.

[Ivan Denisovich]

It's only that I don't consider Wałęsa as someone worth listening to.

I said even. Usually I don't listen to much of what he has to say either, but if he's opposed to something being relatively up his avenue, it says something.

It may mean something but I don't need Wałęsa to tell me that something is wrong. Sure, he may be right but I would not take advice from him; it's one thing to say that gov is doing something wrong, being able to offer sound advice is quite another. I do not believe that Wałęsa is capable of second thing.

[abaris]

I do not believe that Wałęsa is capable of second thing.

On that we can agree. That's why I was surprised by his statement.

[Ivan Denisovich]

I do not believe that Wałęsa is capable of second thing.

On that we can agree. That's why I was surprised by his statement.

Even broken clock is right twice a day.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

L&J reason to oppose Russia may be idiotic but it is not like Poland have reasons to be cordial with said country. History kinda prevents such possibility.

Germany committed much bigger atrocities in Poland than the Russians. And yet, there's not that kind of animosity. True, the Soviets more or less called the shots for almost 40 years. Hungary or the Czech republic would have more reason to hate the Russians with 1956 or '68. Well, maybe the Gomulka crisis falls into the same category too. But if even a person like Lech Walsesa, heavily catholic, calls for moderation, it says something on the current government.

Lech Walsesa was a commie agent when he ran Poland.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lech-walesa-c...tml?ref=gs