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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 6:35 am
Lololol... I'm just thinking about all those poor f*ckers, who translate GOT into other languages, trying to make the origin of Hodor's name make sense.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 6:43 am (This post was last modified: May 23, 2016 at 6:44 am by Excited Penguin.)
I'm a big fan of the show, I think people know by now, but this was the shittiest hour of television ever. I mean, I realize they're probably limited financially in how much quality TV they can give us, and maybe that's a sign that the latter half of the season is going to be especially epic, but this episode was a complete waste of time but for the final few minutes. Everything else in it was so bad and useless you might as well be watching fish swim in an aquarium.
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 7:19 am
Well... I liked it!
And I too cried... damn...
not Hodor!!!!!
Damn you GRRRM!!!!
As for the rest...
- I liked skeptical Varys.... although.... having actually seen dragons... well...
- The power play of getting the faith as a means of propaganda... hehe...
- Dany marches... somewhere... should be Meereen, while commanding Jorah to heal himself
Damn.... I cried here, too!
- Sansa isn't so friendly with Little finger, huh?.... but she did heed his counsel... again...
- Tormund, Tormund, Tormund!!
- Arya just got reminded of what set her on this path... interesting...
- The children of the forest are responsible for creating the White-walkers to thwart men.... and then get destroyed by them helping men... irony doesn't really describe it in full.
Why did the children of the forest only have those sort of bombs at their disposal? I seem to remember them having lots more tricks down their sleeves... like tapping on the help of trees.
.... How will Bran and Meera escape all those wights? Seems like mission:impossible. oh well... plot will dictate that., I guess...
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 7:58 am
Petyr Baelish looking undone in the same episode that Varys looks undone... hrmm.
Bran is something special. He can time travel, and can affect the past, so can he harness it and prevent the Children of the Forest from creating the Night King in the first place?
Is the Night King's brand on Bran's arm a permanent beacon, or is it like Frodo putting the ring on? If the former, he's fucked.
Jorah needs to find a Rite-Aid, and quick.
Summer!!! Another Direwolf down. Just Ghost and Nymeria left. Poor puppies. Seeing the demise of Hodor and Summer in the same 3 minutes was almost too much.
Brienne in the Riverlands? Might we see a certain someone?
Lady Stoneheart?
Where are Asha and Theon going? Castle Black? Deepwood Motte? Certainly not Winterfell... right?
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 8:51 am (This post was last modified: May 23, 2016 at 8:57 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(May 23, 2016 at 7:19 am)pocaracas Wrote: [...]
- I liked skeptical Varys.... although.... having actually seen dragons... well... [...]
Even in a universe, where dragons, magic, or gods exist - there's still going to be bullsh*t, probably even more, than in our reality - precisely because many people have seen weird sh*t of some kind and are therefore more likely to trust a charlatan. And religions, as well as prophecies would seem like a pretty lucrative scam, even in a fantasy world.
It's also worth mentioning, that G.R.R.Martin is anti-war and an atheist/agnostic. Critique of both war and religion is fairly prevalent in his work. Do we really expect, that he will end his Opus Magnum with a worn cliche, like a sexy, violent messiah slaughtering "the bad guys" in a great battle of Good vs Evil, as foreseen by some religious nuts? Even if he does that - it's quite likely not going to be a happy ending. Although that's the books - who knows what TV writers are going to do...
Funnily enough - the show already seems to hint, that prophecies are bullsh*t, although that's likely just a continuity error, stemming from the fact, that many different writers work on this show and they don't necessarily always pay attention to one another's input, while they "improve" on the book.
Cersei is obsessing over the grim future Maggy the Frog foretold her, because the fortune teller knew about her 3 children. But TV-Cersei seems to have had 4 children. In ep.2 of season 1, she tells Catelyn Stark about her first child, a dark-haired boy (which would imply - Robert's son), who died of fever. If it was a lie, it seems like a very pointless, easily disprovable, as well as potentially embarrassing one, if Starks confronted Robert about it.
Of course, that extra kid - or the lie - is not in the book. And on the show it's never mentioned again (as far as I know), so I think it's just a f*ck up.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 10:08 am
But how could he have done so long enough to permit Bran his gal to get very far away?
I'm trying to understand what exactly happened with Hodor. Bran 'takes him over' in the present - seemingly while still observing him in the past. So is his repetition of "hold the door" coming from Bran within him, or does it somehow represent Hodor's own effort? Would it be dangerous for Bran to still be in Hodor when the creepy crawlies finally do him in? And when we see Hodor's eyes roll back in the past, is that his own doing (meaning Hodor too is a warg as some have speculated) or was that Bran taking him over in the past as well? I'm a little confused what to make of this.
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
May 23, 2016 at 10:11 am
I think it was more like Bran was warging into young Hodor while in the past, which brought the present-day Hodor's memories, experiences, and sensations flooding into young Hodor...which is why it fries his brain, Bran was acting like a link between the present and the past. I also think it was a demonstration of just how powerful Bran will become. However, I don't think Bran can 'change' the past in any real sense. Hodor was "Hodor" before Bran was even born. I think it relates back to the play we saw earlier in the episode: everyone has a part to play, and they will play it. The whole illusion of free will and what-ifs.
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