(April 20, 2016 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 6:17 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Nah...That shit happens all the time.
A line of Scripture isn't a talisman, Drich.
Clearly you do not understand the meaning of the word 'train.'
To train is to discipline along the lines of a Tibetan monk, not a free range chicken.
Drich does not understand what fans of all religions do in misuse of language.
Nope sorry, but I really don't like the western romance of Buddhism, it is tribal too, it also has it's competing sub sects as well. Training people to cling to a club isn't like training for a job or sport, it is training to protect the sect regardless of the intent of what the member sees their goodness as.
We feel sorry for Tibet's Buddhists because they are oppressed, that part is true, but as a time frame issue. The totality of the umbrella label "Buddhist" when you look at all the variety of different sects from Asia, to China to Japan, in the entire history of the religion, it too still suffers divisions and had its conflicts.
"Training" is a bad idea in the context of all religions, it teaches conformity, that from an evolutionary standpoint does create group survival, but it still is a lousy way of finding diplomacy with other sects of the same label or diplomacy with those of completely different labels.
Buddhism has no special powers either, it is also simply another religion created in our species history. Asia, China and Japan, also have prisons too so not even Buddhism will magically only make the follower only do good. No, you cant force ANY religion off the face of this planet, but my fellow humans need to make a better effort of being unafraid to consider the real source of our species behaviors, good or bad are really coming from.
You can also "train" to be a Navy Seal, and call that a "discipline" too. But just like religion, that "training" only teaches you to replicate, but in a very messy reality, what it far to often ignores, are when conditions lead to harm to innocent people. It is why in both religion and war, it can cause an otherwise reasonable human to look the other way when it's club is hurting others.
My x wife was Japanese, and my last day in Japan, they took me to a museum of their history of conflict and violence, and they are full of Buddhists too, and they've had a history of conflict with China and Asia, and from their perspective the museum paints them as the victims, which isn't entirely false, but that is what humans do in groups, when attacked, we group, and we all do that. So it isn't as simple as calling any religion a "peaceful" religion. Japan at the time of WW2 was so deeply hypernationalistic they were not victims when they attacked Pearl Harbor. But at the same time Asia and China certainly prior did some really shitty things to the Japanese and both are full of Buddhists.
It was small, only 2 stories or 3, but it went through their history of conflict from the middle ages, to WW1 and WW2 and tons of depictions of horrible cruelty and violence, it reminded me of the Holocaust Museum, not because they were targets of genocide in the same context, but it reminded me of what my fellow humans are capable of as far as being cruel to each other.
It is never a good idea to romance any religion and idolize it an pretend it is perfect.
