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Did Jesus exist at all?
RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
You're right.

There are NO true religions.
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
(May 10, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Love333 Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 10:22 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Well, shit. Now you've done it Rob. I'm convinced.

So, which one of the 40,000+ sects is the One True Religion so I can give all my shit to their shelter and cut them a check for one tenth of my money?

When you think as if there is "One true Religion" & the rest are wrong you may be limiting yourself. You generally can find the answers by looking at the similarities between the religions.

 If you are going to give to the poor give it to the people that REALLY NEED IT. How could giving to a major corporate founded charity help? The Bible may not be 100% accurate at face value but there is a lot of truth in it. If you see someone really suffering and you know they need money not for drugs or partying but because they come from nothing and are starving - you give it to them. Imagine if everyone on Earth did these good deeds?

Sarcasm is lost on you, isn't it?

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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
In order to be found must you not first be lost in the darkness?
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
No. Not at all.
I am John Cena's hip-hop album.
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
(May 10, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Love333 Wrote: When you think as if there is "One true Religion" & the rest are wrong you may be limiting yourself. You generally can find the answers by looking at the similarities between the religions.

If you are going to give to the poor give it to the people that REALLY NEED IT. How could giving to a major corporate founded charity help? The Bible may not be 100% accurate at face value but there is a lot of truth in it. If you see someone really suffering and you know they need money not for drugs or partying but because they come from nothing and are starving - you give it to them. Imagine if everyone on Earth did these good deeds?

1) It was "looking at the similarities between the religions" that made me realize they're all manmade fables.

2) I don't recall Jesus saying anything about those who "REALLY NEED IT", or specifying that only those who don't use drugs should be eligible for charity. Just puttin' that out there.

3) Congratulations, your "imagine if everyone on Earth did these good deeds" comment essentially summarized the entire idea of Secular Humanism. Humans make all the good (or evil) on earth happen, and there's no paradise awaiting us "someday" after we die, so it's incumbent upon us to make things better, to help those who cannot help themselves, and to share our planet as equals with equal rights and dignity.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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We have darkness and light by design. We also have a moon and a sun ,a night and a day.

We learn through curiosity not through ignorance.

It is easier to look at differences than it is to look at similarities but it is also more rewarding to bring people together.

It is easier to say NO than it is to say YES. Negativity is the cult of the weak.
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
It is easier to say no, has less letters.
I am John Cena's hip-hop album.
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
(May 10, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Love333 Wrote: In order to be found must you not first be lost in the darkness?

If only you would give yourself to the Nameless Thirteenth...

"I will fear no darkness for the night is yours"
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RE: Did Jesus exist at all?
(May 10, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Love333 Wrote: We have darkness and light by design. We also have a moon and a sun ,a night and a day.

We learn through curiosity not through ignorance.

It is easier to look at differences than it is to look at similarities but it is also more rewarding to bring people together.

It is easier to say NO than it is to say YES. Negativity is the cult of the weak.

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A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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(May 10, 2016 at 11:01 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Love333 Wrote: When you think as if there is "One true Religion" & the rest are wrong you may be limiting yourself. You generally can find the answers by looking at the similarities between the religions.

If you are going to give to the poor give it to the people that REALLY NEED IT. How could giving to a major corporate founded charity help? The Bible may not be 100% accurate at face value but there is a lot of truth in it. If you see someone really suffering and you know they need money not for drugs or partying but because they come from nothing and are starving - you give it to them. Imagine if everyone on Earth did these good deeds?

1) It was "looking at the similarities between the religions" that made me realize they're all manmade fables.

2) I don't recall Jesus saying anything about those who "REALLY NEED IT", or specifying that only those who don't use drugs should be eligible for charity. Just puttin' that out there.

3) Congratulations, your "imagine if everyone on Earth did these good deeds" comment essentially summarized the entire idea of Secular Humanism. Humans make all the good (or evil) on earth happen, and there's no paradise awaiting us "someday" after we die, so it's incumbent upon us to make things better, to help those who cannot help themselves, and to share our planet as equals with equal rights and dignity.
I do not believe everything in the Bible is 100% accurate at face value. It is a puzzle like many other religions with missing pieces.
Luke14:13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind,   <- THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT

Mark10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,

Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise.

Galatians 5:21 Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 3:3 Not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

On your third statement. I believe at this moment in time that we are judged after death. There are a multitude of religions that mention judgement after death. Especially many of the earlier religions. I cannot rule out this belief.

Certain drugs do have benefits to humans. It is a complex subject if you want to go deep into it. E.g. If someone wants to stop taking Heroin who has a serious addiction and they stop cold turkey the side effects may cause serious damage or death. They should slowly decrease the dose. This is similar with many other drugs in that category.

" Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors___, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity." <- I agree 100% with this, I appreciate your focus on religious studies, your comments, and your time Smile

@ApeNotKillApe It is also easier to condemn someone than it is to tell them something that you appreciate about them

It's easier to to be ignorant than curious

It's easier to Hate & fear than love

It's easier to lust over others than to be pure

It's easier to take money than it is to give

It's easier to put someone down than it is to bring someone up.
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