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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:17 am
(April 22, 2016 at 11:13 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 11:05 am)Divinity Wrote: Offering your daughters up for rape is fucked up.
Agree or disagree?
If that's the only context then I agree, but you're clearly being dishonest in leaving out the fact that there is an angry mob about to bust into your house and most likely brutalize everyone.
now that I answered your question answer mine.
Given the choice, would you rather have only your daughters raped or everyone raped?
Fuck the strangers. I would NOT offer my daughters up for rape especially before the mob even attempts to barge in. Lot was too quick to offer his daughters as if he didn't care about their wellbeing at all.
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:18 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2016 at 11:19 am by Crossless2.0.)
(April 22, 2016 at 11:13 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 11:05 am)Divinity Wrote: Offering your daughters up for rape is fucked up.
Agree or disagree?
If that's the only context then I agree, but you're clearly being dishonest in leaving out the fact that there is an angry mob about to bust into your house and most likely brutalize everyone.
now that I answered your question answer mine.
Given the choice, would you rather have only your daughters raped or everyone raped?
Given the choice, would you choose to permit your daughters to be raped to save your own ass (and that of a guest), or would you risk everyone be brutalized but at least go down swinging? Remember, either way, you have to look your children in the eyes afterward.
I know my answer, but I'm not obliged to make lemonade out of this shitty story.
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:20 am
These may in fact BE the "Days of Sodom", if you're right about the Bible being true... certianly, I'd say America has done more to fit the Sodom's Sins requirement spelled out in Ezekiel.
Our "Christian nation" doesn't help its poor and needy because of our love of greed, our worship of those who make money, and so on.
You Christians reject the people who are most vulnerable in society--the trans community, and most others who are "different"--instead of trying to understand what they're telling you. Instead you make up terrible slanders about them (THEY MIGHT BE MOLESTERS TRYING TO GET AT MY DAAAAUUUUGHTERRRRRS!), and harden your hearts to the people who are so afflicted by society that they're much more likely to be killed, much more likely to kill themselves, and much more likely to turn to things like drugs and prostitution because of that social outcast status.
Exactly as spelled out in Ezekiel, we are greedy and hateful.
But hey, let's focus on butt sex, because that's more important than the fact that we have homeless veterans on our streets while there are five houses empty in this country for every homeless person.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:30 am
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(April 22, 2016 at 11:15 am)Divinity Wrote: Given the choice, I'd get the fuck out.
I would NEVER offer my daughters up for rape. Because I'm not a sick fuck. Apparently you are though. So congratulations. *edit* (quoted wrong person)
Congrats on not answering the question, EVERY time you guys ask me a yes or no question, I ALWAYS answer it. You guys always seem to avoid them however.
Escape was never an option, you're surrounded by an angry mob trying to get into your house... how are you going to escape?
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:33 am
(April 22, 2016 at 11:30 am)Huggy74 Wrote: *edit* (quoted wrong person)
Congrats on not answering the question, EVERY time you guys ask me a yes or no question, I ALWAYS answer it. You guys always seem to avoid them however.
Escape was never an option, you're surrounded by an angry mob trying to get into your house... how are you going to escape?
I did answer the question. I'd make whatever attempt I could to escape. I would NEVER offer my daughters up for being raped. Because as I said I'm not a fucking sicko like you apparently are. I care enough about my kids to not give them up for rape to save my own hide. I'm not a goddamn coward.
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April 22, 2016 at 11:40 am
The more I think about this, Huggy, the more I'm afraid your position pisses me off.
You seem college-educated. Did you not have classes which talked about African-American history, including the fact that a significant number of the Jim Crow laws were pushed by bigots who used the "they're going to rape your daughters" narrative to make people shut down their empathy and reasoning centers against a hated minority?
You really don't understand how this parallels history? Or do you just pretend not to see it?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:41 am
(April 22, 2016 at 11:18 am)Crossless1 Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 11:13 am)Huggy74 Wrote: If that's the only context then I agree, but you're clearly being dishonest in leaving out the fact that there is an angry mob about to bust into your house and most likely brutalize everyone.
now that I answered your question answer mine.
Given the choice, would you rather have only your daughters raped or everyone raped?
Given the choice, would you choose to permit your daughters to be raped to save your own ass (and that of a guest), or would you risk everyone be brutalized but at least go down swinging? Remember, either way, you have to look your children in the eyes afterward.
I know my answer, but I'm not obliged to make lemonade out of this shitty story.
The point is, you can't really blame a guy for panicking in that situation.
The moral of the story was lot wasn't a perfect guy, he and Abraham had problems with their livestock grazing the same land. Abraham gave Lot first choice land, and Abraham would take what was left. Lot chose the best for himself (which happened to be near Sodom), that shows you what kind of man he was.
Lot was saved because he was Abraham's nephew not because of how good of a guy he was. A righteous man would have never been in Sodom to begin with.
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April 22, 2016 at 11:43 am
ARE MY POSTS EVEN SHOWING UP HERE!?
WHAT THE FUCK, YO?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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April 22, 2016 at 11:48 am
(April 22, 2016 at 11:40 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: The more I think about this, Huggy, the more I'm afraid your position pisses me off.
You seem college-educated. Did you not have classes which talked about African-American history, including the fact that a significant number of the Jim Crow laws were pushed by bigots who used the "they're going to rape your daughters" narrative to make people shut down their empathy and reasoning centers against a hated minority?
You really don't understand how this parallels history? Or do you just pretend not to see it? Not even the same thing, were talking about a crowd of people actually trying to rape.
Where as white folks did a lot of raping of slave daughters, tell me exactly what a slave parent was going to do about it?
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RE: The Poor Fucking Jesus Freaks...
April 22, 2016 at 11:53 am
(April 22, 2016 at 11:33 am)Divinity Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 11:30 am)Huggy74 Wrote: *edit* (quoted wrong person)
Congrats on not answering the question, EVERY time you guys ask me a yes or no question, I ALWAYS answer it. You guys always seem to avoid them however.
Escape was never an option, you're surrounded by an angry mob trying to get into your house... how are you going to escape?
I did answer the question. I'd make whatever attempt I could to escape. I would NEVER offer my daughters up for being raped. Because as I said I'm not a fucking sicko like you apparently are. I care enough about my kids to not give them up for rape to save my own hide. I'm not a goddamn coward.
So your answer is you'd rather have everyone get raped... Got it.
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