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[split] Agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position
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[split] Agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position
(July 26, 2010 at 6:56 pm)theVOID Wrote: And talk about how agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position.
That opinion depends on the atheist though. I consider myself a strong gnostic atheist for a number of quite honest reasons, debatable sure, but I would not really want to watch a show that declares agnostic atheism as the only intellectually honest way to be as its message.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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(July 27, 2010 at 3:11 pm)Scented Nectar Wrote:
(July 26, 2010 at 6:56 pm)theVOID Wrote: And talk about how agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position.
That opinion depends on the atheist though. I consider myself a strong gnostic atheist for a number of quite honest reasons, debatable sure, but I would not really want to watch a show that declares agnostic atheism as the only intellectually honest way to be as its message.

Tough luck, but it's true.

The combination of the totality of current human knowledge and logical application cannot possibly conclude that gods "do not exist".
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True if you're incapable of thought.
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(July 27, 2010 at 5:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: True if you're incapable of thought.

Do you not ever grow tired of spurting out all this unfounded noise fr0d0?
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It's necessary against the blinkered VOID.
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(July 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm)theVOID Wrote: The combination of the totality of current human knowledge and logical application cannot possibly conclude that gods "do not exist".
It can if you go by the actual definitions rather than made up new imaginary creatures, eg. the embodiment of some emotion, like they say sometimes with love, justice, etc. To claim that an emotion is a conscious entity is nuts but it's not a god they believe in. It's when they add to it god traits, like a supernature, supremacy, etc. that it totally becomes a logical impossibility.

Here's some of the definitions I'll probably be using when I do a youtube on it:

I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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You can't conclude that God or other deities don't exist by looking at and analysing definitions from the dictionary.
"God is dead" - Friedrich Nietzsche

"Faith is what you have in things that DON'T exist. - Homer J. Simpson
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(July 28, 2010 at 5:29 am)Shinylight Wrote: You can't conclude that God or other deities don't exist by looking at and analysing definitions from the dictionary.
I can conclude that god(s) *AS DEFINED IN THE DICTIONARIES* do not exist. The logical impossibilities arising from all the definitions I've found there take my atheistic belief from the highly improbable point-zero-zero-etc-one chance of a god, all the way to a full assertion that god positively does not exist (asserted by me - I'm not saying anyone else must believe it full strength like I do). I'm also not saying that I might never change my mind on this, just that this is what my current atheism belief strength is.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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Well, definitions of God that logically contradict themselves and therefore cannot logically exist disprove themselves, yeah.
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RE: [split] Agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position
Ditto EVF...

Scented - I don't really seeing the point in debunking the validity of dictionary defined gods, anyone who believes in the God will say "Webster does not define my beliefs" which is a perfectly valid objection to your work. All you are really going to achieve by this is spending a lot of time impressing nobody but yourself.

Also, to say that the basis of your atheism is the fact that dictionary defined gods are logically contradictory seems a rather weak standpoint.
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