Evidence for atheist claims

[Alex K]

Besides the poster that came after me, no one really answered anything, well, anything besides unbased mockery which I am getting used to.

Now, I have read this claim "The Earth is thought to have been formed about 4.6 billion years ago by collisions in the giant disc-shaped cloud of material that also formed the Sun. Gravity slowly gathered this gas and dust together into clumps that became asteroids and small early planets called planetesimals. These objects collided repeatedly and gradually got bigger, building up the planets in the Solar System, including the Earth.

The details of how the Earth formed are still being worked out. Scientists study meteorites and the oldest rocks on Earth to understand what happened in these earliest times in the Solar System. They also observe other solar systems in our galaxy, the Milky Way." but you are not better than any theist by just stating it so, if you read this claim without any further information it looks like a beautiful tale. I need, as you, evidence for this claim. What is the evidence behind this?

You said I could read the internet but that is not my point. This is a debate forum and if we would search the internet everytime we have a doubt there would be no forum at all, I want you guys to explain this to me.

You're right of course. But have you considered this:

[robvalue]

[abaris]

I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious.

Atheism isn't a belief, it's the absence thereoff. There's a definition, sadly not my own, but I subscribe to it: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That goes for religion, since it makes the claim of a supernatural omnipotent creator.

I didn't need any more evidence than earth's and the universe's history to arrive at the conclusion that a humanocentric creator deity doesn't make the least bit of sense. That's all the evidence you need, and if that isn't sufficient for you, you either close your eyes before it or you're going through some serious mental acrobatics to make your ends meet.

[ignoramus]

I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious. I will play the person you believe I am, a "dumb redneck christian" and I will ask you things so you can answer them to me with evidence, of course. First question:

If God did not create the earth, how is it that we have an earth here and we live in it? Also, I beg, provide evidence for your claims.

Have I ever told you about my friend, the invisible Dragon Fnarg? It does my bidding, and if you don't give me all your money now and in the future, it will haunt you in the afterlife and forever burn you with its fiery breath. You'll surely agree that you should comply and proceed with the money transfer asap.  Fnarg is not a very pleasant fellow.

Ok. I'm confused now!
I always believed Rob's invisible pink dragon in his basement was the one true Dragon. And now you come along!
I really don't want to be burnt by a dragon when I die, so until someone conclusively convinces me which of the dragons is the real deal, I'm sorry, I won't risk it.
I'm going to have to remain an adragonist...

[robvalue]

You won't be saying that when he's chewing your balls off.

[robvalue]

The thing is, the history of how the earth came about is of no actual relevance to my daily life. It's interesting, for sure. But if I found out the scientific models were all wrong, it wouldn't make any difference to me. I'd just be curious about what new theories would be developed.

But belief in religion is very different. At the very least it clocks up huge amounts of time in your life, perhaps leads you to do things you otherwise wouldn't do, to treat others differently, to value different things, to give money to the church, to live in fear of judgement, and to pass this all on to your children....

So it's pretty important to be sure the belief is valid. I wouldn't have such a relaxed attitude as I do about the history of the earth, if I was a christian. I'd want to know all my energy was being well spent.

The smart theists co-opt science now. They accept scientific explanations, and then say "but god did all that". God did science, essentially. It's still irrational, but it's a lot better.

[ignoramus]

Yeah. They go to several different banks to inquire about mortgage rates for a house but don't batter an eyelid and accept the first God told to them by their parents and risk burning in hell forever for worshipping a false God.

[robvalue]

It is weird how truth varies by geographical area, isn't it?

[Wryetui]

[robvalue]

Okay, if you're going to play silly games, goodbye. I tried to help you.

You're asking for a whole science education on a forum post.