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Can a slug be God?
#21
RE: Can a slug be God?
The bible is a slugfest!

Full of conniving slimey bastards!
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#22
RE: Can a slug be God?
we can't imagine whether God is a slug, because he is beyond our comprehension. Whilst I don't doubt that slugs have been known to 'move in mysterious ways', a slug tends to leave a distinct trail back to its origins.
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#23
RE: Can a slug be God?
Well, Jehovah is allergic to iron chariots and slugs are allergic to salt.

Hmmm....
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#24
RE: Can a slug be God?
Yep! No slug ever helped me find my car keys either! Another false sluggish god.
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#25
RE: Can a slug be God?
Still nothing? No theists want to go on a journey to define God?

I'll bump it this last time and let it drop. If I get no answers I'll assume that theists here have no idea what a god is and so the slug may or may not be one.
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#26
RE: Can a slug be God?
Never did get any answers on this... My guess is because in order for a theist to answer, they would have to be truthful about their god and they just can't bring themselves to see their god as taking anything other than human form. To admit that there is a possibility of their god taking a non-human form would be to challenge the brainwashed thinking they hold. We can't have that now, can we?
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#27
RE: Can a slug be God?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:41 am)robvalue Wrote: This is mainly aimed at theists, but everyone is welcome to chime in. I'm still totally lacking any coherent notion of what a god is.

Is it defined by its qualities? Or by its achievements? Its status? What?

Consider this scenario. A long time ago, all that existed was a slug. That's it, a slug. Nothing predates the slug.

Suddenly, the slug creates all of the rest of reality around it somehow. Maybe this was deliberate, maybe it did it by accident. Now it exists alongside everything else. Along with this creation came the rules regarding harm and death, which previously did not apply. The slug lives out its days, then dies. Fast forward several billion years, and we have the present day.

So my question is this: would this slug be a god? If not, why not, and what else would make it into one?

It's irrelevant how the slug did this, or if it's possible, since these are never considerations when gods are discussed.

I will bite.  Wink

We get in to a slippery territory when we start debating definitions as definitions seem to evolve and at times be subjective.  

In the scenario you described I would define the slug as a Creator, not a God.  Why?  Because the slug died.  Death is a natural occurrence.  ALL biological entities are constrained by the limits of nature and will cease to exist.  "God" by definition is outside of natural law, space and time and would have no limits.  Limitations only make sense in a universe governed by demonstrable limits.  This concept is difficult to grasp since we are constrained by limits and have no way to apply personal experiences to such deistic qualities.

A "God" is really just an entity that is outside of and not limited by their creation.  They make the rules, they can manipulate as they choose to and the creation is bound to the limits set upon it.
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#28
RE: Can a slug be God?
(May 25, 2016 at 10:28 am)Kingpin Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 4:41 am)robvalue Wrote: This is mainly aimed at theists, but everyone is welcome to chime in. I'm still totally lacking any coherent notion of what a god is.

Is it defined by its qualities? Or by its achievements? Its status? What?

Consider this scenario. A long time ago, all that existed was a slug. That's it, a slug. Nothing predates the slug.

Suddenly, the slug creates all of the rest of reality around it somehow. Maybe this was deliberate, maybe it did it by accident. Now it exists alongside everything else. Along with this creation came the rules regarding harm and death, which previously did not apply. The slug lives out its days, then dies. Fast forward several billion years, and we have the present day.

So my question is this: would this slug be a god? If not, why not, and what else would make it into one?

It's irrelevant how the slug did this, or if it's possible, since these are never considerations when gods are discussed.

I will bite.  Wink

We get in to a slippery territory when we start debating definitions as definitions seem to evolve and at times be subjective.  

In the scenario you described I would define the slug as a Creator, not a God.  Why?  Because the slug died.  Death is a natural occurrence.  ALL biological entities are constrained by the limits of nature and will cease to exist.  "God" by definition is outside of natural law, space and time and would have no limits.  Limitations only make sense in a universe governed by demonstrable limits.  This concept is difficult to grasp since we are constrained by limits and have no way to apply personal experiences to such deistic qualities.

A "God" is really just an entity that is outside of and not limited by their creation.  They make the rules, they can manipulate as they choose to and the creation is bound to the limits set upon it.
My question to you would then be, was Jesus 100% god, 100% human, both, or neither?  Because when people say that "Jesus died for your sins," they aren't talking only about the body-puppet he was inhabiting at the time, otherwise "Jesus" as an entity never really died, he just left his 'host' body.  I see a problem here if you claim that Jesus is God, a God cannot die, and Jesus died for our sins.
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#29
RE: Can a slug be God?
(May 25, 2016 at 10:28 am)Kingpin Wrote: In the scenario you described I would define the slug as a Creator, not a God.  Why?  Because the slug died.  Death is a natural occurrence.  ALL biological entities are constrained by the limits of nature and will cease to exist.  "God" by definition is outside of natural law, space and time and would have no limits.  Limitations only make sense in a universe governed by demonstrable limits.  This concept is difficult to grasp since we are constrained by limits and have no way to apply personal experiences to such deistic qualities.

A "God" is really just an entity that is outside of and not limited by their creation.  They make the rules, they can manipulate as they choose to and the creation is bound to the limits set upon it.

Suppose it was a tri-omni slug that was not constrained to die, but permitted itself to die (entailing that it had morally sufficient grounds for permitting this). Then would it be God?
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#30
RE: Can a slug be God?
Absolutely ridiculous. As an abstract mental exercise, it's not bad, but the question can be answered quite logically. A slug most definitely cannot be God. If it were, bacon would be fine and salt would be banned.
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