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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm
Huh?
That didn't make any sense, sorry. Bear in mind I have no idea what defines a god. What is the slug lacking? I can't understand your part 3 at all.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 12:39 pm
(May 25, 2016 at 10:47 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Was Jesus 100% god, 100% human, both, or neither...it seems like you're saying that Jesus can both die and not die because a God isn't limited by our understanding of reality or our limitations.
At least as far as Catholics go, Jesus was "consubstantial" with God according to divinity (100% if you like, but it's not the best way to put it), and "consubstantial" with us according to humanity. Anything you can say about god, you can say about Jesus. Anything you can say about humanity (with the exception of sin) you can say about Jesus. He was a single divine person with a human nature (body AND soul) united to the divine person. The classical formula was made at the council of Chalcedon.
Jesus, who has a human body and a human soul (i.e. a human nature), died a human death according to that nature (which is the separation of the soul from the body). The divine person experienced human death through his union with the human nature (the human nature died while united to the divine nature). That's what we say anyway.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 12:41 pm
(May 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm)robvalue Wrote: Huh?
That didn't make any sense, sorry. Bear in mind I have no idea what defines a god. What is the slug lacking? I can't understand your part 3 at all.
As a slug, it doesn't lack anything. In fact, as a slug, it is going beyond what slugs can do by nature.
It isn't so much what it is lacking and more about what it has: conditional existence.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(May 26, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Ignorant Wrote: (May 25, 2016 at 10:47 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Was Jesus 100% god, 100% human, both, or neither...it seems like you're saying that Jesus can both die and not die because a God isn't limited by our understanding of reality or our limitations.
At least as far as Catholics go, Jesus was "consubstantial" with God according to divinity (100% if you like, but it's not the best way to put it), and "consubstantial" with us according to humanity. Anything you can say about god, you can say about Jesus. Anything you can say about humanity (with the exception of sin) you can say about Jesus. He was a single divine person with a human nature (body AND soul) united to the divine person. The classical formula was made at the council of Chalcedon.
Jesus, who has a human body and a human soul (i.e. a human nature), died a human death according to that nature (which is the separation of the soul from the body). The divine person experienced human death through his union with the human nature (the human nature died while united to the divine nature). That's what we say anyway.
Thanks for at least giving an answer...but that really, really doesn't seem to make much of any kind of sense to me. Especially when it's all just assertions.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 12:44 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2016 at 12:45 pm by robvalue.)
Okay, well if we change it so that it stays where it is and doesn't die, is it God then? Kingpin said it needs to not die as well, so that covers both in one.
It's not conditional on anything. Just a slug that created everything else, and then continues on in solititude, never dying.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 2:12 pm
(May 26, 2016 at 12:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Thanks for at least giving an answer...but that really, really doesn't seem to make much of any kind of sense to me. Especially when it's all just assertions.
Ya, I get that. No worries.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 2:27 pm
(May 26, 2016 at 12:44 pm)robvalue Wrote: Okay, well if we change it so that it stays where it is and doesn't die, is it God then [1]? Kingpin said it needs to not die as well, so that covers both in one.
It's not conditional on anything [2]. Just a slug that created everything else, and then continues on in solititude, never dying [3].
1) No
2) Then it isn't a slug.
3) Well, either it is a slug that created everything, or it is something else that isn't conditional. Even if it were a slug that created everything else, as conditional, it isn't god.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 5:34 pm
God is not a slug because god can talk.
The bible does not mention a slug.
The bible is the inerrant word of god
Though he may be a bush on fire?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 5:40 pm
(May 26, 2016 at 5:34 pm)ignoramus Wrote: God is not a slug because god can talk.
The bible does not mention a slug.
The bible is the inerrant word of god
Though he may be a bush on fire?
Found him:
![[Image: morgan-freeman-god.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.inquisitr.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fmorgan-freeman-god.jpg)
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RE: Can a slug be God?
May 26, 2016 at 5:48 pm
According to AA, an doorknob can be your Higher Power. I've literally heard this several times in discussing my atheism in the program.
What the hell can a doorknob do besides open a goddamned door?
I don't see the value in trading one illusion for another. I'd rather see the real me. Who is it who opens the door, anyway?
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