Trump now tied with Clition nationally according to Real Clear Poltics average

[Brian37]

Are we counting the Great Leap Forward here?  I mean let's not forget Mao Zedong Mr. Chinese Apologist.

To possibly claim the US killed more people then China is the whole of history, you'd have to do some real magic with numbers. For example bringing up the Native Americans who were largely killed by small pox before the US was even a country. I see that commonly attributed to America. Also people will attribute all the deaths in Iraq or Vietnam to America, even when most of both examples were the Iraqis and Vietnamese killing each other. Meanwhile China has existed for thousands of years in one form or another. During those times they've committed and been the victim of numerous genocides that vastly outnumber anything America has done. Like Divity said, you must be totally ignoring the great leap forward. Not only that but also the early 20th century genocide of Mongol people, the massive genocides in the 12th century, the estimated 2 million slave laborers who died in contruction projects in the early 1st century. It takes real mental gymnastics to claim America has killed more.

That was then dumbass. And quite frankly I am tired of my entire species making cruelty and victimhood a fucking numbers game. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate is in our evolution, not our labels. But as it currently stands America is far better at human rights than China. But if you want America to get worse, vote for Trump.

[KUSA]

We need to quit bickering and figure out how we are going to help Bernie win California and shift the Super Delegates over to him.

[ReptilianPeon]

We need to quit bickering and figure out how we are going to help Bernie win California and shift the Super Delegates over to him.

These headlines from the Washington Post today will help:

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1. Hillary Clinton’s email problems just got much worse
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2. State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices
   

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[CapnAwesome]

To possibly claim the US killed more people then China is the whole of history, you'd have to do some real magic with numbers. For example bringing up the Native Americans who were largely killed by small pox before the US was even a country. I see that commonly attributed to America. Also people will attribute all the deaths in Iraq or Vietnam to America, even when most of both examples were the Iraqis and Vietnamese killing each other. Meanwhile China has existed for thousands of years in one form or another. During those times they've committed and been the victim of numerous genocides that vastly outnumber anything America has done. Like Divity said, you must be totally ignoring the great leap forward. Not only that but also the early 20th century genocide of Mongol people, the massive genocides in the 12th century, the estimated 2 million slave laborers who died in contruction projects in the early 1st century. It takes real mental gymnastics to claim America has killed more.

That was then dumbass. And quite frankly I am tired of my entire species making cruelty and victimhood a fucking numbers game. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate is in our evolution, not our labels. But as it currently stands America is far better at human rights than China. But if you want America to get worse, vote for Trump.

Brian, intelligent people are talking. Go play elsewhere.

[WinterHold]

To possibly claim the US killed more people then China is the whole of history, you'd have to do some real magic with numbers. For example bringing up the Native Americans who were largely killed by small pox before the US was even a country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Ame..._Fort_Pitt
The European invaders ARE AMERICA. If you see a white American, that probably came with them campaigns. 
So, technically, what is your point ?? American history begins WHEN EUROPEAN INVADERS BEGIN TO COLONIZE, you cannot separate the histories, because if you did, then nothing will make sense, don't try to erase your roots.




So, just to be clear, China didn't anahilate whole populations to establish its own state; while you, as your history proved, did so.
It's not your fault. It's the fault of your European ancestors -that if you were Europeans-; replace ancestors with "forefathers" if you weren't one.

 I see that commonly attributed to America

Because of what I said, especially when it gets combined with stories like this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_River_Massacre_Site

This ravine was one of the major killing fields, as defending Shoshone warriors used it as a natural defensive feature, and unarmed Natives sought refuge there from the battle. Natives fleeing the battle were also shot trying to swim across Bear River. The California Volunteers retrieved their dead, but left the Shoshones where they lay.[1]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_River_Massacre_Site#cite_note-nrhpinv2-1][/url]
Okay, enough of proving your ignorance in the history of your own region, now, you cross the line when you say this:

Also people will attribute all the deaths in Iraq or Vietnam to America, even when most of both examples were the Iraqis and Vietnamese killing each other

Yes ! before the invasion of America, Iraqies used to roam and kill fat people on sight !
Please shut up and don't insult the people who died in because of your political FILTH !



How dare you ? do you think you're better somehow? 
What America did in Iraq, created psychopaths that make up ISIS, look, Arab regimes are disgusting hellish systems that do indeed kill and torture, but they do it with the help of the like of you !



No. You kill like they kill; you give them weapons to kill; training to kill; your boots on the ground do the killing in many cases, and the likes of you spend their times in the luxery of the west away from the bombs and sniper shots and UAV strikes spreading rumors and false news, claiming to be angles and throwing  the blame of the murder you do on us. Arabs are guilty, read my sykes-picot thread carefully, but you don't get to clear the name of your state !

EVERYBODY IS GUILTY
America killed 1000,000 Iraqies in 7 years. Get over it.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

In war you don't go to court to get approval before a Soldier shoots an enemy Soldier in the trees.  We are at war.  The people getting whacked by drone missiles are our enemies.  We will kill them whenever or wherever we see them by any means at our disposal.  When they stop fighting the drone strikes will end.  Until then they can expect a Hellfire missile.

That's funny. Because last I checked most of the victims of drone strikes were civilians. And just because it's a war doesn't mean laws just disappear.

In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

[ReptilianPeon]

That's funny. Because last I checked most of the victims of drone strikes were civilians. And just because it's a war doesn't mean laws just disappear.

In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

That kind of attitude create more terrorists. We have the Geneva Convention for a reason. Are you suggesting even a newborn infant is a legitimate target?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

America's record on human rights is 100 times worse than China's and there are pictures to prove it.  We just have better propaganda than they do.

Fine, then move there if you think it is so much better. I have the same fucking problem with morons who think Che was a hero. He was an opportunist who played off of people's fears, just like Trump. I tell them the same thing, if it is so great then move to Cuba. Move to China if you think it is such a utopia.

We are trying to look like China's  sweat shop wages and that charge to create more worker instability started with Reagan's deregulation and union busting. But only an idiot thinks we have more human rights abuses.

There are millions of pictures that document America's human rights violations.  Most people love the propaganda that tells lies about how wonderful we are.  

China is a dirty polluted place full of xenophobic racists, somewhat like America but with less violence and more modern.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

That kind of attitude create more terrorists. We have the Geneva Convention for a reason. Are you suggesting even a newborn infant is a legitimate target?

Once the shooting starts everyone in enemy territory is a target.

http://warisacrime.org/image/tid/59

https://www.google.com/search?q=baby+war...-hnOUMM%3A

http://www.ww2incolor.com/dramatic/9___1...+1945.html

[account_inactive]

That's funny. Because last I checked most of the victims of drone strikes were civilians. And just because it's a war doesn't mean laws just disappear.

In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

So a kid walking around unarmed is a fighter? You're an absolute fucking looney. If anything, you're the bloody terrorist!