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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm)SteveII Wrote: Sometimes I find it humorous to watch the threads get created on topics that have easy answers and then watch all the comments accumulate like something profound has been said. Most times I do not.
To me it just shows that they haven't really thought about it (whatever 'it' is) and really don't want to either. It's just a way for them to make themselves feel superior to believers. They pretend that atheism is the only rational approach then proceed to put their stupidity on display.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 1:52 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2016 at 1:52 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
The concept of Hell is the same - a rejection of God which leads to great eternal unhappiness after death.
The depth of our understanding naturally evolves as we learn more and study more. I have no problem with this. Also, I had already posted that exact article in my thread about Hell several months ago: http://atheistforums.org/thread-35781.html
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm)SteveII Wrote: The supposed paradox is created by not understanding omnipresence. God is present everywhere in the sense that he knows what is happening and sustains his creation in being. That would apply to Hell as well.
If you then talk about the denizens of Hell being separated from God, that is simply in a personal/relational sense. In that sense, they do not have the experience of the presence of God.
Imagined problem solved.
Is God in my asshole? Or does he just know what's going on in my asshole while sustaining it? Can I experience the presence of God in my asshole?
@Chad, I have taken to adding people like this to my ignore list. It cleans up my thread and I really don't have to worry about missing something.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 1:57 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm)SteveII Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Is God in my asshole? Or does he just know what's going on in my asshole while sustaining it? Can I experience the presence of God in my asshole?
@Chad, I have taken to adding people like this to my ignore list. It cleans up my thread and I really don't have to worry about missing something.
I find I end up doing kinda the same, sometimes.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:00 pm
The concept of Hell--unless reserved only for the worst of the worst--would make Casper a pretty big fucking asshole. I mean if that's the creator of our universe, he's not 'god', he's just named God because nobody can do what needs to be done with him.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm)SteveII Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Is God in my asshole? Or does he just know what's going on in my asshole while sustaining it? Can I experience the presence of God in my asshole?
@Chad, I have taken to adding people like this to my ignore list. It cleans up my thread and I really don't have to worry about missing something.
Some people here are interested in actual discussion and in coming to a better understanding of what our actual beliefs are, even if so they can more accurately rebuke them. Which is completely fine, and makes for productive discussion.
Others are not interested in that at all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:02 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm)SteveII Wrote: @Chad, I have taken to adding people like this to my ignore list. It cleans up my thread and I really don't have to worry about missing something.
Some people here are interested in actual discussion and in coming to a better understanding of what our actual beliefs are, even if so they can more accurately rebuke them. Which is completely fine, and makes for productive discussion.
Others are not interested in that at all.
Yeah. Like if I just came into a thread to call you a doody-head without making a response or pointing out something about your statements, that adds nothing to the argument.
But you're also a doody-head~ 
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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It was a serious question. You won't answer it because either you have to say yes or say that God is not omnipresent. I'm asking a childish question to poke holes in your childish beliefs.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:06 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 2:02 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Some people here are interested in actual discussion and in coming to a better understanding of what our actual beliefs are, even if so they can more accurately rebuke them. Which is completely fine, and makes for productive discussion.
Others are not interested in that at all.
Yeah. Like if I just came into a thread to call you a doody-head without making a response or pointing out something about your statements, that adds nothing to the argument.
But you're also a doody-head~
You are in the first group. 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:10 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: It was a serious question. You won't answer it because either you have to say yes or say that God is not omnipresent. I'm asking a childish question to poke legitimate holes in your childish beliefs.
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