I feel a bit relieved.

[Little Rik]

Imbecile.  

Gee I see you're doing a lot for distinguishing yourself from the "sub-humans"!

I have heard this kind of sermon before just to see the same cheap changing his mind once the
mishap happen to him or his family.
Would you be still of the same opinion if the IS throw your gay brother down a toll building?
Get real dreamer.  

YES, I would! I would be immensely angry towards those who did it and their primitive set of beliefs, but I would never start calling them sub-humans.

I think that when you call someone a sub-human you are basically telling him "you are completely alien to me, and you don't deserve any right whatsoever". It's a very strong emotional response, sure, but it's fundamentally wrong. Humans remain humans no matter what heinous crimes they commit.

You're basically saying that because such an emotional response exists, we should abandon all kinds of reason and just go ahead and call people sub-humans. But why the fuck would you do that?

One thing is to help those who do wrong to get out the mental sewer.
A different thing is to do nothing and dream that after all they are all ok.  

Saying they're human =/= they are ok. Humans can be sick fucks, but they're still humans!

Wrong again Luc.  

I don't know what you are studying at the Uni.
However I am sure of one thing.
Or you are not studying Psychology or you haven't got a clue anyway about it.  

It doesn't mean that a person is human just because he-she got a body.
Is not the body that determine whether someone is human or not.

It is the consciousness.
According to yoga the body is just a shell that sooner or later will turn into material to feed the worms.
The consciousness will move on and will settle in a new body that will be most suitable for his her
development.
The free will will determine which way to go.  
Whether you progress or regress the consciousness will change accordingly.
Once you screw up your life you no longer deserve to live inside a human body.
You can however keep on living in a human body.
That doesn't mean that you are human because it is not your body that determine that.
Capish?

[FatAndFaithless]

But why should we care what Yoga has to say? Why not the Bible, or the Koran, or the Book of Mormon?

[Little Rik]

But why should we care what Yoga has to say?  Why not the Bible, or the Koran, or the Book of Mormon?

Sure Fat.  

I reckon is a good idea to care about what make sense and yoga does make sense.
However if you got something that make more sense than yoga by all means grab it.
And if you don't care what make sense or not then also grab that even if you grab nothing.  

[FatAndFaithless]

But why should we care what Yoga has to say?  Why not the Bible, or the Koran, or the Book of Mormon?

Sure Fat.  

I reckon is a good idea to care about what make sense and yoga does make sense.
However if you got something that make more sense than yoga by all means grab it.
And if you don't care what make sense or not then also grab that even if you grab nothing.  

So if a Christian told you that the Bible made more sense than yoga, and then started telling you how they see the world, would you be convinced?  Or would you just keep repeating your yoga-based opinion?  

I'll ask again, why should we care what yoga has to say?

[Little Rik]

Sure Fat.  

I reckon is a good idea to care about what make sense and yoga does make sense.
However if you got something that make more sense than yoga by all means grab it.
And if you don't care what make sense or not then also grab that even if you grab nothing.  

So if a Christian told you that the Bible made more sense than yoga, and then started telling you how they see the world, would you be convinced?  Or would you just keep repeating your yoga-based opinion?  

I'll ask again, why should we care what yoga has to say?

I don't think you fully understand what the word SENSE means.
Making sense is related to what work or to what is better than anything else so to speak
so by me saying that yoga make sense I mean that which is the top of the top.
If some religious person come to me and say that his Bible make sense to him I say......
......good on you brother enjoy it.
If however the same religious person argue with me that his Bible is better that my yoga
than I start an argument in order to show him-her my point.
If the other person is unable to prevail as always happen then it confirm once again the superiority of yoga.
If not then I will have to admit my fail.
So far however yoga has always been the winner not just because is the first form of theism but because
it produce the best results.  

[FatAndFaithless]

So all of the Christians who think Christianity makes more sense than yoga, are simply wrong? And the Muslims, and Mormons, and Hindus, and Sikhs?

[Little Rik]

So all of the Christians who think Christianity makes more sense than yoga, are simply wrong?  And the Muslims, and Mormons, and Hindus, and Sikhs?

Yoga is spirituality while what you mention are religions.
Before you engage in your argument try to know what is the difference among the two.  

[FatAndFaithless]

But you literally just said Yoga is superior to Christianity. You compared the two as well.

You're still avoiding my question though. Why should we care what yoga says? All you say is that "it makes sense to me", but so what? Why should it make sense to anyone else?

In fact, you've also said that people should use whatever 'makes sense' to them, which throws out the idea of any one of the ideologies having any sort of 'truth' value.

[Lucanus]

Wrong again Luc.  

I don't know what you are studying at the Uni.
However I am sure of one thing.
Or you are not studying Psychology or you haven't got a clue anyway about it.  

It doesn't mean that a person is human just because he-she got a body.
Is not the body that determine whether someone is human or not.

It is the consciousness.
According to yoga the body is just a shell that sooner or later will turn into material to feed the worms.

I study Medical and Pharmaceutical Biotechnology. I don't know much about psychology, but I'm pretty sure it is not based on yoga.

The consciousness will move on and will settle in a new body that will be most suitable for his her
development.
The free will will determine which way to go.  
Whether you progress or regress the consciousness will change accordingly.
Once you screw up your life you no longer deserve to live inside a human body.
You can however keep on living in a human body.
That doesn't mean that you are human because it is not your body that determine that.
Capish?

Capisco, but it's bullshit, and just as usual you just make assertions without backing them up with evidence. I don't believe in "Yoga spirituality", or in any kind of spirituality tbh. If you have a human brain and experience things as a human does then you're human, but here we go back to the old question about consciousness and how it can exist independently from a brain etc.

If you want to talk about reincarnation and its implications then make another thread about it. Or don't, because I think that not many people would be interested in another shitshow. I would like it though.

I don't think you fully understand what the word SENSE means.
Making sense is related to what work or to what is better than anything else so to speak
so by me saying that yoga make sense I mean that which is the top of the top.
If some religious person come to me and say that his Bible make sense to him I say......
......good on you brother enjoy it.
If however the same religious person argue with me that his Bible is better that my yoga
than I start an argument in order to show him-her my point.
If the other person is unable to prevail as always happen then it confirm once again the superiority of yoga.
If not then I will have to admit my fail.
So far however yoga has always been the winner not just because is the first form of theism but because
it produce the best results.  

Then let's see those results, please! Why does yoga make sense to you? Why should it make sense to us?

[Losty]

Enrico, if you're looking at someone and considering that person to be subhuman just because they've done something you don't like, then you should consider that your life views may be seriously flawed. If your spirituality is better than any religion then it should be making you more moral, not less so.