Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?

[Sheed1980]

Checkmate atheists.
Now where do I go to become a muslim.
The evidence is just too damn compelling.

U can go to any mosque and request to take ur shahada "faith testament". This verifies that u believe there is only One God (Allah) and Muhammad pbuh is His final messenger to all mankind. Just go to ur local city mosque/Islamic center and tell any adult member that u would like to like to take u want more information to become a muslim. They will direct you to the Imam, or someone who will walk you through the process.

The evidence that you mentioned is too compelling, is the guidance form God (Allah), to His straight path for your life.

If you don't have a local mosque or are unsure how to locate one....Google "Islamic center near me". Most mosques are open during the day and night for people coming to pray. No appointment necessary. LOL! It's a come as you are environment, especially being the month of Ramadan, you will find there are people there happy to assist you in finding more about the Islamic beliefs, lifestyle, etc....

May Allah continue to guide your towards success, and may he forgive us all of our sins, may He reward us in Mercy with Paradise (Heaven) and forbid us the torment of Hellfire. Ameen.

If you still have questions ...don't hesitate to write...or check out these websites: New Muslim Academy, Ask-a-Muslim.com, Seeker'sHub.com, Bayyinah.org, GuideUs.com..... Those are just a variety of online resources. Hope that helps

[Fidel_Castronaut]

There is no such thing as an allah.

[Sheed1980]

this is what Allah does with His messengers. He sends miracles to show people His Almighty power through His messengers. For example; In Moses pbuh time the people were vain of themselves because of their knowledge of magic and illusion. So Allah sent Moses pbuh with miracles such as the rod turning into a snake, and parting the Red Sea as signs for those people, who were vain of their knowledge of magic, to ask those people: What magic that u people call urselves  to "know so much about" could outdo Allah Almighty's power through His messenger Moses pbuh could perform? The people In Jesus pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of medicine. So Allah created and sent His messenger Jesus pbuh. First born of a virgin woman, then through Allah's power and will Jesus pbuh healed lepers and cured the blind, and even raised the dead to life. So Allah asks these people who so call themselves to "know so much about medicine" to produce a medicine that can first impregnate a virgin woman among the other miracles that His messenger Jesus pbuh performed through Allah's power and will. With Prophet Muhammad pbuh the people were into poetry, science, mathematics, linguistics, and astronomy. So Allah sent the Qur'an as a miracle within itself that shows knowledge of all of these different subjects (and more) which the people of Muhammad's pbuh time so called "knew so much about" first by sending it as a scripture through Muhammad pbuh, who was an illiterate man, proving even he, as Allah's messenger to all mankind, obviously couldn't produce a scripture like this. So it must've come from The Supreme Being Himself. This is why the Qur'an not only gives Allah's laws and message to mankind, and tells about mankind, angels, jinn, and all creation, along with the present life and life Hereafter. But also the chapters rhyme towards the peoples' poetry aspect. And covers different mathematical, linguistic, scientific, and astronomical miracles which no human in the 7th century had knowledge of, to cover the peoples' other aspects. So just as Allah did with Moses and Jesus pbut both with the Torah and Gospel, He did with Muhammad pbuh with the Qur'an, a book that was revealed over a period of 23 years

Ok, now instead of doing numerology which is Satanic, show me some mathematics or science instead.

We've established thus far that neither the Qur'an nor science says that the waters are exactly 71.11% of the Earth. In fact, I miraculously showed that the percentage is 72 through very credible science links. So you and Satan are wrong ... and Allah, science, and I are right.

Now for some of the scientific miracles of the Qur'an which revealed in the year 610, when technology didn't exist, no one other than God Himself could have had knowledge of these things that I will mention.
 
Chapter 16 of the Qur'an is An-Nahl or The Honeybee. Scientists have discovered that the honeybee has "16"chromosomes.
The word for "moon" is mentioned 27 times THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE QUR’AN and the word for "new moon" is mentionED ONLY 1 time totaling 28 which IS ALSO the number of DIFFERENT MONTHLY phases of the moon that orbits our planet. ALSO, IN CHAPTER 54 AL-QAMAR OR “THE MOON”, The word "moon" is ONLY mentioned iN verse 1. If you count the remaining verses all the way to the end of the Qur'an there are 1,390 verses. The year 1390 of the Hijra (Islamic)calendar is equal to the year 1969 of the Gregorian calendar which we go by to this day. Of course we ALL know that 1969 was the year that man first set foot on the moon.
 In 23:44 God says "thumMa ARSalnaa rasulanaa tatraa" which translates to "Then We sent our messengers in succession" now this verse doesn't mention anything astronomical in message. But  look at letters I capitalized in quotation marks. The Arabic letters Mim(M) Alif(A) Ra( R) and Sin(S) appear in this order and spell "MARS". The next time these Arabic letters appear in this exact order is 23:45 which is exactly "1" verse later and it says "thumMa ARSalnaa moosaa wa akhaahu haaroona" which translates to "Then we sent Moses and his brother Aaron" again YOu see this has no astronomical message but YOu ALSO see "MARS" again 1 verse later, and guess what? Mars takes exactly "1 day" to rotate around its own axis. But it gets better. Chapter 46 is Al-Ahqaf which means "Sand dunes" in 46:23 it says "MA uRSil'tu bihi" meaning "what I am sent with". In verse 46:30 it says "unzila min ba'aDi MOoSaa" meaning "revealed after Moses". Now the capital letters here Dal(D)Mim(M)Waw(O)and Sin(S) in order spell "DMOS" the name of one of the moons that orbits Mars is called "Deimos". This is the only chapter these names are both mentioned together and with today's technology, scientists have recently discovered Mars is a planet completely covered with "sand dunes" which IS ALSO the name of this chapter.
UNLIKE English and MANY other languages, In Arabic there is no letter "V". So in Arabic the letter "W" is used to replace "V". In 8:72 it says "Wa ENUS tansurookum" meaning "And if they seek your help" The letters "WENUS" appear in order and WITH THE W REPLACING THE V THIS WOULD SPELL THE PLANET VENUS. the next verse where they appear again is in 11:3 "Wa ENUStaghfiru rabbakum" meaning "And seek forgiveness of your Lord". In 17:7 it says "Wa ENUSatum" or "If you do evil". It SHOWS HERE that there are 243 verses between 8:72 and 11:3. Scientists have discovered it takes the planet Venus 243 days to revolve around the sun rotating on its own axis in an opposite direction of other planets. But to go further it rotates on an angle of 177 degrees (17:7).
Chapter 57 is Al-Hadyd or The Iron. If you take the numerical value of the letters without vowels (HA)H=8 (Dal)D=4 (Ya)y=10 (Dal)d=4 they equal 26. If you look at any elemental periodic table the atomic number for iron (Fe) is 26. Now if you add THE ARTICLE “Al” to make it Al-Hadyd or “The Iron” (A)=1 and (L)=30 which equal 31+26 you get 57 which happens to be the number of the chapter in the Qur'an. Also being 114 ChAPTERS in the entire Qur’an, 57 is exactly in the middle. Scientists have discovered that the middle of our Earth, the core consists of molten iron. aLSO WITH THIS CHAPTER IS ANOTHER MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE. THERE ARE 29 VERSES IN THIS CHAPTER 57 OF THE QUR’AN. IF U MULTIPLY 57x29 you get the product 1,653, you notice that by adding 1+2+3……all the way to 57, you also get the sum 1,653.
 


SCIENTISTS HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT OUR UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING. STARS IN THE HEAVENS ARE MOVING FURTHER DISTANCES APART FROM EACH OTHER. IMAGINE DRAWING MANY DOTS ON A BALLOON, THEN INFLATING IT WITH AIR. AS MORE AIR IS PUT INTO THE BALLOON THE DOTS WILL SPREAD FURTHER APART. THIS IS THE CASE WITH OUR UNIVERSE (THE BALLOON) AND THE STARS (DOTS). IN THE QUR’AN 51:47 ALLAH SAYS: wa samaaa’a banainaahaa bi’aiidin wa innaalamuusi’uun.[ AND WE HAVE CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH POWER AND WE ARE EXPANDING IT]. NOW IN THE 7TH CENTURY THIS WAS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY MANY PEOPLE, AS THE WAY IT IS, BECAUSE OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, UNDERSTOOD TODAY. SO THE QUR’AN STATES THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS EXPANDING BACK IN THE 7TH CENTURY AND WHO ELSE BUT GOD ALLAH COULD HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH, AND THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

[GrandizerII]

Ok, now instead of doing numerology which is Satanic, show me some mathematics or science instead.

We've established thus far that neither the Qur'an nor science says that the waters are exactly 71.11% of the Earth. In fact, I miraculously showed that the percentage is 72 through very credible science links. So you and Satan are wrong ... and Allah, science, and I are right.

Now for some of the scientific miracles of the Qur'an which revealed in the year 610, when technology didn't exist, no one other than God Himself could have had knowledge of these things that I will mention.
 
Chapter 16 of the Qur'an is An-Nahl or The Honeybee. Scientists have discovered that the honeybee has "16"chromosomes.
The word for "moon" is mentioned 27 times THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE QUR’AN and the word for "new moon" is mentionED ONLY 1 time totaling 28 which IS ALSO the number of DIFFERENT MONTHLY phases of the moon that orbits our planet. ALSO, IN CHAPTER 54 AL-QAMAR OR “THE MOON”, The word "moon" is ONLY mentioned iN verse 1. If you count the remaining verses all the way to the end of the Qur'an there are 1,390 verses. The year 1390 of the Hijra (Islamic)calendar is equal to the year 1969 of the Gregorian calendar which we go by to this day. Of course we ALL know that 1969 was the year that man first set foot on the moon.
 In 23:44 God says "thumMa ARSalnaa rasulanaa tatraa" which translates to "Then We sent our messengers in succession" now this verse doesn't mention anything astronomical in message. But  look at letters I capitalized in quotation marks. The Arabic letters Mim(M) Alif(A) Ra( R) and Sin(S) appear in this order and spell "MARS". The next time these Arabic letters appear in this exact order is 23:45 which is exactly "1" verse later and it says "thumMa ARSalnaa moosaa wa akhaahu haaroona" which translates to "Then we sent Moses and his brother Aaron" again YOu see this has no astronomical message but YOu ALSO see "MARS" again 1 verse later, and guess what? Mars takes exactly "1 day" to rotate around its own axis. But it gets better. Chapter 46 is Al-Ahqaf which means "Sand dunes" in 46:23 it says "MA uRSil'tu bihi" meaning "what I am sent with". In verse 46:30 it says "unzila min ba'aDi MOoSaa" meaning "revealed after Moses". Now the capital letters here Dal(D)Mim(M)Waw(O)and Sin(S) in order spell "DMOS" the name of one of the moons that orbits Mars is called "Deimos". This is the only chapter these names are both mentioned together and with today's technology, scientists have recently discovered Mars is a planet completely covered with "sand dunes" which IS ALSO the name of this chapter.
UNLIKE English and MANY other languages, In Arabic there is no letter "V". So in Arabic the letter "W" is used to replace "V". In 8:72 it says "Wa ENUS tansurookum" meaning "And if they seek your help" The letters "WENUS" appear in order and WITH THE W REPLACING THE V THIS WOULD SPELL THE PLANET VENUS. the next verse where they appear again is in 11:3 "Wa ENUStaghfiru rabbakum" meaning "And seek forgiveness of your Lord". In 17:7 it says "Wa ENUSatum" or "If you do evil". It SHOWS HERE that there are 243 verses between 8:72 and 11:3. Scientists have discovered it takes the planet Venus 243 days to revolve around the sun rotating on its own axis in an opposite direction of other planets. But to go further it rotates on an angle of 177 degrees (17:7).
Chapter 57 is Al-Hadyd or The Iron. If you take the numerical value of the letters without vowels (HA)H=8 (Dal)D=4 (Ya)y=10 (Dal)d=4 they equal 26. If you look at any elemental periodic table the atomic number for iron (Fe) is 26. Now if you add THE ARTICLE “Al” to make it Al-Hadyd or “The Iron” (A)=1 and (L)=30 which equal 31+26 you get 57 which happens to be the number of the chapter in the Qur'an. Also being 114 ChAPTERS in the entire Qur’an, 57 is exactly in the middle. Scientists have discovered that the middle of our Earth, the core consists of molten iron. aLSO WITH THIS CHAPTER IS ANOTHER MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE. THERE ARE 29 VERSES IN THIS CHAPTER 57 OF THE QUR’AN. IF U MULTIPLY 57x29 you get the product 1,653, you notice that by adding 1+2+3……all the way to 57, you also get the sum 1,653.
 


SCIENTISTS HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT OUR UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING. STARS IN THE HEAVENS ARE MOVING FURTHER DISTANCES APART FROM EACH OTHER. IMAGINE DRAWING MANY DOTS ON A BALLOON, THEN INFLATING IT WITH AIR. AS MORE AIR IS PUT INTO THE BALLOON THE DOTS WILL SPREAD FURTHER APART. THIS IS THE CASE WITH OUR UNIVERSE (THE BALLOON) AND THE STARS (DOTS). IN THE QUR’AN 51:47 ALLAH SAYS: wa samaaa’a banainaahaa bi’aiidin wa innaalamuusi’uun.[ AND WE HAVE CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH POWER AND WE ARE EXPANDING IT]. NOW IN THE 7TH CENTURY THIS WAS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY MANY PEOPLE, AS THE WAY IT IS, BECAUSE OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, UNDERSTOOD TODAY. SO THE QUR’AN STATES THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS EXPANDING BACK IN THE 7TH CENTURY AND WHO ELSE BUT GOD ALLAH COULD HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH, AND THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

Nope, this is just more bullshit.

First, you post more numerology crap, as if you didn't even bother reading my response about how numerology is crap.

Second, regarding the last paragraph, no, 51:47 is about the sky/heaven "samaa2", not the universe. God expanding the heaven is a concept also noted in the Bible, and the expansion occurred at the time of creation. It doesn't say that the sky is still expanding.

[Sheed1980]

Now for some of the scientific miracles of the Qur'an which revealed in the year 610, when technology didn't exist, no one other than God Himself could have had knowledge of these things that I will mention.
 
Chapter 16 of the Qur'an is An-Nahl or The Honeybee. Scientists have discovered that the honeybee has "16"chromosomes.
The word for "moon" is mentioned 27 times THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE QUR’AN and the word for "new moon" is mentionED ONLY 1 time totaling 28 which IS ALSO the number of DIFFERENT MONTHLY phases of the moon that orbits our planet. ALSO, IN CHAPTER 54 AL-QAMAR OR “THE MOON”, The word "moon" is ONLY mentioned iN verse 1. If you count the remaining verses all the way to the end of the Qur'an there are 1,390 verses. The year 1390 of the Hijra (Islamic)calendar is equal to the year 1969 of the Gregorian calendar which we go by to this day. Of course we ALL know that 1969 was the year that man first set foot on the moon.
 In 23:44 God says "thumMa ARSalnaa rasulanaa tatraa" which translates to "Then We sent our messengers in succession" now this verse doesn't mention anything astronomical in message. But  look at letters I capitalized in quotation marks. The Arabic letters Mim(M) Alif(A) Ra( R) and Sin(S) appear in this order and spell "MARS". The next time these Arabic letters appear in this exact order is 23:45 which is exactly "1" verse later and it says "thumMa ARSalnaa moosaa wa akhaahu haaroona" which translates to "Then we sent Moses and his brother Aaron" again YOu see this has no astronomical message but YOu ALSO see "MARS" again 1 verse later, and guess what? Mars takes exactly "1 day" to rotate around its own axis. But it gets better. Chapter 46 is Al-Ahqaf which means "Sand dunes" in 46:23 it says "MA uRSil'tu bihi" meaning "what I am sent with". In verse 46:30 it says "unzila min ba'aDi MOoSaa" meaning "revealed after Moses". Now the capital letters here Dal(D)Mim(M)Waw(O)and Sin(S) in order spell "DMOS" the name of one of the moons that orbits Mars is called "Deimos". This is the only chapter these names are both mentioned together and with today's technology, scientists have recently discovered Mars is a planet completely covered with "sand dunes" which IS ALSO the name of this chapter.
UNLIKE English and MANY other languages, In Arabic there is no letter "V". So in Arabic the letter "W" is used to replace "V". In 8:72 it says "Wa ENUS tansurookum" meaning "And if they seek your help" The letters "WENUS" appear in order and WITH THE W REPLACING THE V THIS WOULD SPELL THE PLANET VENUS. the next verse where they appear again is in 11:3 "Wa ENUStaghfiru rabbakum" meaning "And seek forgiveness of your Lord". In 17:7 it says "Wa ENUSatum" or "If you do evil". It SHOWS HERE that there are 243 verses between 8:72 and 11:3. Scientists have discovered it takes the planet Venus 243 days to revolve around the sun rotating on its own axis in an opposite direction of other planets. But to go further it rotates on an angle of 177 degrees (17:7).
Chapter 57 is Al-Hadyd or The Iron. If you take the numerical value of the letters without vowels (HA)H=8 (Dal)D=4 (Ya)y=10 (Dal)d=4 they equal 26. If you look at any elemental periodic table the atomic number for iron (Fe) is 26. Now if you add THE ARTICLE “Al” to make it Al-Hadyd or “The Iron” (A)=1 and (L)=30 which equal 31+26 you get 57 which happens to be the number of the chapter in the Qur'an. Also being 114 ChAPTERS in the entire Qur’an, 57 is exactly in the middle. Scientists have discovered that the middle of our Earth, the core consists of molten iron. aLSO WITH THIS CHAPTER IS ANOTHER MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE. THERE ARE 29 VERSES IN THIS CHAPTER 57 OF THE QUR’AN. IF U MULTIPLY 57x29 you get the product 1,653, you notice that by adding 1+2+3……all the way to 57, you also get the sum 1,653.
 


SCIENTISTS HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT OUR UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING. STARS IN THE HEAVENS ARE MOVING FURTHER DISTANCES APART FROM EACH OTHER. IMAGINE DRAWING MANY DOTS ON A BALLOON, THEN INFLATING IT WITH AIR. AS MORE AIR IS PUT INTO THE BALLOON THE DOTS WILL SPREAD FURTHER APART. THIS IS THE CASE WITH OUR UNIVERSE (THE BALLOON) AND THE STARS (DOTS). IN THE QUR’AN 51:47 ALLAH SAYS: wa samaaa’a banainaahaa bi’aiidin wa innaalamuusi’uun.[ AND WE HAVE CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH POWER AND WE ARE EXPANDING IT]. NOW IN THE 7TH CENTURY THIS WAS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY MANY PEOPLE, AS THE WAY IT IS, BECAUSE OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, UNDERSTOOD TODAY. SO THE QUR’AN STATES THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS EXPANDING BACK IN THE 7TH CENTURY AND WHO ELSE BUT GOD ALLAH COULD HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH, AND THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

Nope, this is just more bullshit.

First, you post more numerology crap, as if you didn't even bother reading my response about how numerology is crap.

Second, regarding the last paragraph, no, 51:47 is about the sky/heaven "samaa2", not the universe. God expanding the heaven is a concept also noted in the Bible, and the expansion occurred at the time of creation. It doesn't say that the sky is still expanding.

What u have to realize is that the translation from Arabic into our English language can take different meanings. So the term we use as UNIVERSE which Allah refers to in the Qur'an as THE LOWEST HEAVEN fits this term. Check with scientists to see if our universe is expanding.
Here are some sites to help u with ur theory. But what about the OTHER scientific miracles. U didn't comment on those

https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/.html

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/expansion.html

[/url]

[url=https://www.google.com/#]

[Cyberman]

Nobody is disagreeing that the Universe is expanding. Where we disagree is your contention that what the kerrang says means what you say it does, and the methodology you are using to assert that.

[GrandizerII]

Nope, this is just more bullshit.

First, you post more numerology crap, as if you didn't even bother reading my response about how numerology is crap.

Second, regarding the last paragraph, no, 51:47 is about the sky/heaven "samaa2", not the universe. God expanding the heaven is a concept also noted in the Bible, and the expansion occurred at the time of creation. It doesn't say that the sky is still expanding.

What u have to realize is that the translation from Arabic into our English language can take different meanings. So the term we use as UNIVERSE which Allah refers to in the Qur'an as THE LOWEST HEAVEN fits this term. Check with scientists to see if our universe is expanding.
Here are some sites to help u with ur theory. But what about the OTHER scientific miracles. U didn't comment on those

https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/.html

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/expansion.html

[/url]

[url=https://www.google.com/#]

I know Arabic, and not once has samaa2 ever been used to refer to the universe in my conversations with other Arabic-speaking people. We have a different word for that: kawn.

And I did comment briefly on the other claims. I said numerology is crap.

[Sheed1980]

What u have to realize is that the translation from Arabic into our English language can take different meanings. So the term we use as UNIVERSE which Allah refers to in the Qur'an as THE LOWEST HEAVEN fits this term. Check with scientists to see if our universe is expanding.
Here are some sites to help u with ur theory. But what about the OTHER scientific miracles. U didn't comment on those

https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/.html

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/expansion.html

[/url]

[url=https://www.google.com/#]

I know Arabic, and not once has samaa2 ever been used to refer to the universe in my conversations with other Arabic-speaking people. We have a different word for that: kawn.

And I did comment briefly on the other claims. I said numerology is crap.

So since u speak Arabic u know better than I that words get mixed in their translations, especially with a screwed up language like English. For ex: The term Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahim is translated to "In the name of Allah The Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Now u as an Arabic speaking person u know the word for in is "Fi". So Bismillah doesn't technically mean "In" the name of Allah but that is how the statement is made in our English language. But my friend my duty is not to guide u to Islam, I have no power to do such. Only Allah guides to His straight path whom He pleases and who seek His guidance. All I do is tell u the truth about our beautiful religion of Islam, the true way it is supposed to be taught. Not based on the hatred and false teachings of these worldwide terrorists who say they kill in the name of Islam, but based on the true teachings from Allah through our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. So as Allah says in chapter 18:29 "Fa man shaa'a fal yu'min wa man shaa'a fal yakfur" So he who wishes to believe let him believe and he who wishes to disbelieve let him disbelieve". Belief in Allah as God and submission to Him in Islam is not for Him but for us as people. So my friend as Allah also tells us in 109:6 of the Qur'an "Lakum dinukum wa liyadin" To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"

[GrandizerII]

I know Arabic, and not once has samaa2 ever been used to refer to the universe in my conversations with other Arabic-speaking people. We have a different word for that: kawn.

And I did comment briefly on the other claims. I said numerology is crap.

So since u speak Arabic u know better than I that words get mixed in their translations, especially with a screwed up language like English. For ex: The term Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahim is translated to "In the name of Allah The Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Now u as an Arabic speaking person u know the word for in is "Fi". So Bismillah doesn't technically mean "In" the name of Allah but that is how the statement is made in our English language. But my friend my duty is not to guide u to Islam, I have no power to do such. Only Allah guides to His straight path whom He pleases and who seek His guidance. All I do is tell u the truth about our beautiful religion of Islam, the true way it is supposed to be taught. Not based on the hatred and false teachings of these worldwide terrorists who say they kill in the name of Islam, but based on the true teachings from Allah through our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. So as Allah says in chapter 18:29 "Fa man shaa'a fal yu'min wa man shaa'a fal yakfur" So he who wishes to believe let him believe and he who wishes to disbelieve let him disbelieve". Belief in Allah as God and submission to Him in Islam is not for Him but for us as people. So my friend as Allah also tells us in 109:6 of the Qur'an "Lakum dinukum wa liyadin" To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"

Ok, but I'm saying samaa2 is not known to mean "universe". Anyway, context is clear that the verse is referring to the time of creation, just like in the Bible. According to the Abrahamic religions, God expanded the sky during the time of creation, and that's how we got a wide expanse of a sky (well, not according to science of course, but just saying).

And, yes, by all means believe whatever you want, but I will not believe in blatant nonsense, and neither will many people here.

[Sheed1980]

So since u speak Arabic u know better than I that words get mixed in their translations, especially with a screwed up language like English. For ex: The term Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahim is translated to "In the name of Allah The Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Now u as an Arabic speaking person u know the word for in is "Fi". So Bismillah doesn't technically mean "In" the name of Allah but that is how the statement is made in our English language. But my friend my duty is not to guide u to Islam, I have no power to do such. Only Allah guides to His straight path whom He pleases and who seek His guidance. All I do is tell u the truth about our beautiful religion of Islam, the true way it is supposed to be taught. Not based on the hatred and false teachings of these worldwide terrorists who say they kill in the name of Islam, but based on the true teachings from Allah through our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. So as Allah says in chapter 18:29 "Fa man shaa'a fal yu'min wa man shaa'a fal yakfur" So he who wishes to believe let him believe and he who wishes to disbelieve let him disbelieve". Belief in Allah as God and submission to Him in Islam is not for Him but for us as people. So my friend as Allah also tells us in 109:6 of the Qur'an "Lakum dinukum wa liyadin" To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"

Ok, but I'm saying samaa2 is not known to mean "universe". Anyway, context is clear that the verse is referring to the time of creation, just like in the Bible. According to the Abrahamic religions, God expanded the sky during the time of creation, and that's how we got a wide expanse of a sky (well, not according to science of course, but just saying).

And, yes, by all means believe whatever you want, but I will not believe in blatant nonsense, and neither will many people here.

Well I appreciate ur friendly conversation/debate. Even though we don't agree on certain things, we agree there is an Almighty God. May He bless u for all of ur good and have mercy upon u my friend