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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
Popular logic will always be logical because it is still logic?

You'll need to define what you mean by logic.

Most Christians here will swear that God is a logical conclusion.
We need more specific information.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 6:49 am)ignoramus Wrote: -Popular logic will always be logical because it is still logic?-

If it was popular to say Einstein was a complete fool, do you think they would be being logical ?

-You'll need to define what you mean by logic.-

Do you agree with the Oxford Dictionary definition of logic ?


--Most Christians here will swear that God is a logical conclusion.
We need more specific information.--

Do you think it's possible that The bible was put together by people who were thinking lets show God doing evil things and expect them to believe that God is good and that The Bible is the perfect word of God or do you think it's possible that bad parts were added to corrupt it to mislead people into believing the wrong things ?

Do you think you can prove no bad parts were added to The Bible to corrupt it and mislead people and that The Bible wouldn't be perfect if those bad parts were taken out ?

ignoramus, you may look at my answers above.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 7:28 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Do you think it's possible that The bible was put together by people who were thinking lets show God doing evil things and expect them to believe that God is good and that The Bible is the perfect word of God or do you think it's possible that bad parts were added to corrupt it to mislead people into believing the wrong things ?

Do you think you can prove no bad parts were added to The Bible to corrupt it and mislead people and that The Bible wouldn't be perfect if those bad parts were taken out ?

The bible wasn't written in a day, and when you look at the stories you can see the traces of mentality from those varied times. To an outsider god's acts seem bad, but think from the perspective of a small tribe, if they have a supernatural entity aiding them and killing their enemies, then for them that entity is good. If in their society females are treated like shit, then the "good" and moral god from their perspective would have to conform to that mentality as well...

As for moses and jesus, I don't really care what one fictional character says about another..
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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
Wtf is this guy talking about?!
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 7:57 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Wtf is this guy talking about?!  

No idea.

Dunno
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#16
RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
This guy is like a christian Rik, minus the emoji...  Wacky

I don't want to be THAT guy, but... Do we really need another one?
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 2:45 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Is it wise to think popular logic is logical ?

We may discuss.

Thomas,

I think you need to describe what you are thinking more fully.   There seems to be more behind what your are trying to get at, but we can't know that.
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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 8:09 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: This guy is like a christian Rik, minus the emoji...  Wacky

I don't want to be THAT guy, but... Do we really need another one?


LOL, did we ever really need the first one? [emoji13]
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Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 7:57 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Wtf is this guy talking about?!  


LadyForCamus,

If someone said to you that someone isn't a Christian and then you worked to use The No True Scotsman Fallacy to show them how you think they were wrong to say that and then later you looked at the words in 1 john 4:1, do you think you would judge yourself wrong for working to prove what you wanted by The No True Scotsman Fallacy ?
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
(June 17, 2016 at 8:20 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 7:57 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Wtf is this guy talking about?!  


LadyForCamus,

If someone said to you that someone isn't a Christian and then you worked to use The No True Scotsman Fallacy to show them how you think they were wrong to say that and then later you looked at the words in 1 john 4:1, do you think you would judge yourself wrong for working to prove what you wanted by The No True Scotsman Fallacy ?

Why would one look to justify their actions by a book when they believe that book to be bs to begin with?
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