Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting

[Drich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vev-OzHQy94

My question... Why Is this not been on the evening news? Why is no one discussing the Muslim "answer to the homosexual problem?"

What...are you crazy? How is this video even relevant? 
The Orlando attack had NOTHING to do with homosexuality...so sayeth you. 

quotation please.

Why are baptist ministers and fringe christians being quoted for commending this act when the shooter's own religious belief system supports what he did, and is being literally called to be done by one of his religious leaders just 3 weeks before this happened?

Well, everyone knows radical Islamic fundamentalists be trippin', Drich...the shit's not even news, really. Why not view this admonishment of Christians as a positive in regards to this matter? Perhaps it's just a subconscious acknowledgement that Biblical Christianity is just betterer and truerer...and thusly, it's leaders should be held to a higher standard. 
Sounds good, yes? 

You're welcome.
[/quote] So not news...
A main stream mosque invites a main stream imam to speak and he speaks a mainstream Islamic message that says Kill Gay people so they can have a chance at attonement... Then 3 weeks later someone struggling with his homosexuality does this very thing!

Someone who grew up American and apparently was apart of the homosexual culture can be reprogrammed to kill his fellow 'gays' in a matter of weeks and this is not news?

Maybe you should take some time to define what is and is not news worthy to your liberal mind..

Better yet would it be news if he were following the instructions of a west borough baptist minister instead? Why is one news and the other not? Why was the mere fact that they were here protesting the funerals with their god hates fag signs and the guy who inspired the shootings gets a pass?

Or have you just been indoctrinated to not think that way?

Like that dude is nuts. Or perhaps high.
Probably nuts, though...Maybe both?

And if he were following his only aviable path to redemption according to his religion? And if millions more follow suit? One guy marching to the beat of a drum only he can here is nuts... Billions marching to the same beat is a movement, whether you can hear or are willing to recognize it or not.

Yes, I believe news outlets can and do spin stories on occasion, with the goal of shaping/influencing public sentiment on particular matters; though I'm not sure I'd believe that to be the case in this instance. If it were, I think the goal or reason would be a bit more complex than simply changing how the public views Islam, as a exercise in liberal douchery. 

Public safety actually comes to mind.

who's safty? the murder who instigated this attack? Because without some public accountability his guy is free to continue to perfect his sermon to reach out to the next guy and the next.

Or maybe you are referring to the billions who embrace what was said on the video???

What if they were Christians who said this and billions of Christian who embraced a doctrine of killing gays would you be concerned with their safty?

Why the hypocrisy?

[Drich]

So what did Jesus say on the cross just before he died?
When he tasted the wine, he said, “It is finished.” Then he bowed his head and died.

Now back to Mat 5:18 Jesus came to 'full fill the law and in your version verse 18 says  I assure you that nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone. The law will not lose even the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter until it has all been done.


Which again was completed on the cross when Jesus died.

Yes the law remains as heaven and earth are here, but it has indeed changed as the law has been full filled. Which means a NT Christian (one who has received the atonement offered by Christ) is not judged by the law as a means to righteousness. Or the law is not used to 'judge the morality' of the sanctified believer. When a believer is judged it is the righteousness of Christ himself that is judged.

Or do you not understand the divide between OT Judaism and NT Christianity. If NT Christians were to follow ALL the laws and if none of them changed then we'd be OT jews. as it is our dietary, social and even moral laws all have changed. So clearly your interpretation of Mat 5 is wrong.

"It is finished" does not mean the same as "Now that I am dead everything that God said to Moses is now null and void." "It" is not specified, but in the context of him being crucified to death, it seems more likely to mean his ordeal, or his whole life.

In the sermon on the moutn, Jesus didn't say "...until I am dead." he said "...until all heaven and earth have passed."

This seems like you aren't joining the dots, you're adding extra dots to draw what you want to see. I don't buy it.

That's not what Christ said... He said the law will remain as long as the earth remain, BUT IT SHALL NOT BE CHANGED in the least little way till all is complete. Meaning once "all if complete/it is finished (on the cross) the law is open for change even though it remains. And it does remain as all the unsaved are judged against what the laws says. Christ offers freedom from the law through atonement. which would not be necessary if he abolished the law. No the law has to remain in order for atonement to work, In order for their to be a separation from the saved and unsaved. If Christ abolished the law then all would be saved, but again not the case. Only those who accepts the atonement offered are saved from the law and the consequences the law demands..

Otherwise again if Christ meant to say what you think this passage in Mat 5 means, then their could be no gentile believers. animals still had to be sacrificed for sins, and their would have to be a temple... In other words your interpretation of mat 5 does not account for the changes and difference that have always separated OT Judaism and NT Christianity. this is not a new thing. The changes started immediately after the death and resurrection of Christ.

How else with your understanding of Mat 5 can you account for the differences between Christianity and OT Judaism?

[Minimalist]

How else with your understanding of Mat 5 can you account for the differences between Christianity and OT Judaism?

Two piles of shit in different bags.

[Drich]

If you are not afraid to criticize Islam, then where is the criticism? I show you a news report from this area where it clearly explains a local Mosque invited a Imam to call for the deaths of homosexuals 3 weeks before this thing happened..

Again, would your current nonchalant attitude towards a religious leader be the same if he were a bishop from the RC church and the shooter a roman Catholic?

What is your evidence that the shooter carried out the shooting due to what the imam said?

If a Christian were to shoot up a nightclub full of homosexuals and someone linked you to one of the many sermons Christian pastors have made calling for the death of homosexuals, you would be singing a completely different tune, I have no doubt.

Never mind. I already know how you're going to answer.

It's in the 911 transcripts. He was waging jihad against the infidels of the west. He also called a news show and we in orlando got to hear alot more than the rest of you, the FBI has since seized that recording. (he read off a manifesto that outlines his reasons for the attacks) Apparently he mirrored everything he said to the news outlet to 911, but it all has been censored.. the local Orlando paper is in a law suit against the FBI and the state to have that stuff re released. He does not mention this Imam by name but apparently his reasoning is the same.

Again, if the shoe were on the other foot the rest of christianity would condemn this act as being a ultra right wing legalistic nut job, as Christianity is splintered and we do go far right as we also go far left. Islam does not do this. Their ultra right wing nut jobs are apart of their base (sunni) sect. and again 90% of all muslims are sunni. this means the Imam who speaks to the isis fighter can also rightfully speak to Muslims here and be well received. To them those fighting in a jihad are nothing more than how a christian would look at a missionary. self less devoted and a true dedicated servant of God. they are not shunned nor frown upon by the muslim community unless you forcably hold their feet to the fire, and in which case they have permission to lie about their beliefs if they are out numbered and believe the truth will cause them harm.

[The Grand Nudger]

"Islam" -does- do this...as you yourself so conveniently communicated to us, while complaining that it didn't.   

It's almost as if you've forgotten your own posts just as soon as the words have fallen from your lips.  Not that I'm ready to exonerate islam on any counts...mind you.

[Minimalist]

Dripshit has a short memory.

[Drich]

[FatAndFaithless]

[Drich]

[Drich]

"Islam" -does- do this...as you yourself so conveniently communicated to us, while complaining that it didn't.   

It's almost as if you've forgotten your own posts just as soon as the words have fallen from your lips.  Not that I'm ready to exonerate islam on any counts...mind you.

citation please