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RE: Logical contradictions?
August 20, 2010 at 12:40 am
(August 18, 2010 at 11:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has said that He would always expose the false teachings about Him and this is why the false christian sects have fallen. As for the other religions that have survived up till now they are not teachings directed against Him or false teachings about Him. Why they have lasted this long I do not know ...
(August 19, 2010 at 6:36 am)Ashendant Wrote: So islam is acceptable according to the bible?
(August 19, 2010 at 11:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: No how could it,Islam is nothing like christianity and was not and is not a christian sect.
But Islam-- as well as Judaism-- both state that Jesus is NOT the "messiah." They are not Christian sects, however they have made very unequivocal statements about Jesus (in the Koran and in the Talmud) that are "false" according to the vast majority of Christians.
Also this notion that "false" Christian sects fall because of Christological heresies doesn't jive with the fact that Unitarian-Universalists, Quakers are still around today (to name only two that immediately come to mind)-- their views on Jesus are hardly "orthodox."
And historically, many Christian sects have died out not because of some god, but because other people with other ideologies and agendas wiped them out. There's nothing metaphysical about the gallows.
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RE: Logical contradictions?
August 21, 2010 at 1:26 am
(August 20, 2010 at 12:40 am)Entropist Wrote: (August 18, 2010 at 11:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has said that He would always expose the false teachings about Him and this is why the false christian sects have fallen. As for the other religions that have survived up till now they are not teachings directed against Him or false teachings about Him. Why they have lasted this long I do not know ...
(August 19, 2010 at 6:36 am)Ashendant Wrote: So islam is acceptable according to the bible?
(August 19, 2010 at 11:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: No how could it,Islam is nothing like christianity and was not and is not a christian sect.
But Islam-- as well as Judaism-- both state that Jesus is NOT the "messiah." They are not Christian sects, however they have made very unequivocal statements about Jesus (in the Koran and in the Talmud) that are "false" according to the vast majority of Christians.
Also this notion that "false" Christian sects fall because of Christological heresies doesn't jive with the fact that Unitarian-Universalists, Quakers are still around today (to name only two that immediately come to mind)-- their views on Jesus are hardly "orthodox."
And historically, many Christian sects have died out not because of some god, but because other people with other ideologies and agendas wiped them out. There's nothing metaphysical about the gallows.
Have you been reading Lost Christianites the reason I ask this because your response resembles what it teaches.
I do believe I said most have come to an end.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Logical contradictions?
August 21, 2010 at 1:44 am
(August 21, 2010 at 1:26 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you been reading Lost Christianites the reason I ask this because your response resembles what it teaches.
I do believe I said most have come to an end. No, you did not use the word "most":
"God has said that He would always expose the false teachings about Him and this is why the false christian sects have fallen."
I don't see the word "most" in there, referring to Christian sects.
And I don't know what "Lost Christianities" is...
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RE: Logical contradictions?
August 21, 2010 at 2:07 am
(August 21, 2010 at 1:44 am)Entropist Wrote: (August 21, 2010 at 1:26 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you been reading Lost Christianites the reason I ask this because your response resembles what it teaches.
I do believe I said most have come to an end. No, you did not use the word "most":
"God has said that He would always expose the false teachings about Him and this is why the false christian sects have fallen."
I don't see the word "most" in there, referring to Christian sects.
And I don't know what "Lost Christianities" is...
Yes I went back and checked should have done that before responding, my apologies.
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RE: Logical contradictions?
November 19, 2010 at 6:34 am
(August 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: One thing I've not got my head around. One for any Christian theist.
How can Jesus be fully man and fully god. Man is limited, god unlimited. This is a straightforward logical contradiction. Without hiding behind any mysterious response how do you reconcile this?
A guy who did Divinity degree at the top evangelical christian theology college in Australia, told me once that Christians need to accept the inherent tension between Christ's divinity and humanity. Also he was a Calvinist who like wise said about the inherent tension between god's sovereignty and human responsibility.
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