Posts: 185
Threads: 7
Joined: June 15, 2016
Reputation:
8
Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:02 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 6:04 am by Veritas_Vincit.)
Can any of the theists here actually demonstrate that a God exists?
Can you concisely, empirically, logically or rationally meet your burden of proof to demonstrate that any God exists?
Please start by defining what you mean by 'God.'
No preaching please!
Posts: 18510
Threads: 129
Joined: January 19, 2014
Reputation:
91
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:05 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 6:05 am by Alex K.)
Let's start with what exactly they mean by a God.
I doubt we'll even get to the demonstration part 
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Posts: 20476
Threads: 447
Joined: June 16, 2014
Reputation:
111
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:05 am
Don't need to! You cannot prove that he doesn't! Therefore we're on equal footing! 50/50 baby! suck it! Hi5 guys! checkmate atheist scumbags!
#xtard hat off
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:07 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 6:08 am by robvalue.)
I don't think I've ever got past someone trying to define it in a way that is coherent and distinguishable from nothing.
Unless they try and play games by saying it's the universe and all that crap.
Posts: 6610
Threads: 73
Joined: May 31, 2014
Reputation:
56
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:11 am
(July 5, 2016 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote: I don't think I've ever got past someone trying to define it in a way that is coherent and distinguishable from nothing.
Unless they try and play games by saying it's the universe and all that crap.
I'm happy with calling superintelligent aliens/robots as gods. The universe is quite a grand entity, and I can see why some may have an intuitive feeling about such a grand entity as being divine.
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:13 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 6:14 am by robvalue.)
Sure, if people want to do that, it's fine by me. It doesn't seem to fit theism though, although it might as well do. No one can tell me the difference between a god and an arbitrarily powerful non-god. I tried to hammer it out before, but I got nothing that made any sense to me.
I always find the term to be relative anyway. Something can be a god (as in having full control) of a particular reality, but that doesn't make them god of any other realities, including their own, necessarily.
Posts: 20476
Threads: 447
Joined: June 16, 2014
Reputation:
111
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:15 am
(July 5, 2016 at 6:11 am)Irrational Wrote: (July 5, 2016 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote: I don't think I've ever got past someone trying to define it in a way that is coherent and distinguishable from nothing.
Unless they try and play games by saying it's the universe and all that crap.
I'm happy with calling superintelligent aliens/robots as gods. The universe is quite a grand entity, and I can see why some may have an intuitive feeling about such a grand entity as being divine.
Simple reason why Divine is mandatory! (Because aliens and robots don't offer afterlives) /thread
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
Posts: 977
Threads: 11
Joined: July 17, 2015
Reputation:
9
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:26 am
(July 5, 2016 at 6:02 am)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: Can any of the theists here actually demonstrate that a God exists?
Can you concisely, empirically, logically or rationally meet your burden of proof to demonstrate that any God exists?
Please start by defining what you mean by 'God.'
No preaching please!
No. The end.
You may refer to me as "Oh High One."
Posts: 977
Threads: 11
Joined: July 17, 2015
Reputation:
9
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:27 am
(July 5, 2016 at 6:15 am)ignoramus Wrote: (July 5, 2016 at 6:11 am)Irrational Wrote: I'm happy with calling superintelligent aliens/robots as gods. The universe is quite a grand entity, and I can see why some may have an intuitive feeling about such a grand entity as being divine.
Simple reason why Divine is mandatory! (Because aliens and robots don't offer afterlives) /thread
How do you know that aliens don't offer an afterlife?
You may refer to me as "Oh High One."
Posts: 18510
Threads: 129
Joined: January 19, 2014
Reputation:
91
RE: Does a God exist?
July 5, 2016 at 6:32 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 6:32 am by Alex K.)
(July 5, 2016 at 6:11 am)Irrational Wrote: (July 5, 2016 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote: I don't think I've ever got past someone trying to define it in a way that is coherent and distinguishable from nothing.
Unless they try and play games by saying it's the universe and all that crap.
I'm happy with calling superintelligent aliens/robots as gods. The universe is quite a grand entity, and I can see why some may have an intuitive feeling about such a grand entity as being divine.
You can do that, but I don't think it helps the debate in any way to broaden the definition of gods in this way. It just muddies the waters for lazy apologists to wiggle around in undisturbed.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
|
