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Is god bound by logic?
#21
RE: Is god bound by logic?
Quote:Please bring less childish arguments to the table,

You win yet another internet for fatuous irony.

ROFLOL
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#22
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 12:33 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:Please bring less childish arguments to the table,

You win yet another internet for fatuous irony.

ROFLOL

I've been out of work for a year, give me my internets so I can spend them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#23
RE: Is god bound by logic?
Quote:I've been out of work for a year

Really? Oh I'm truly sorry to hear that GC.

I worked with the unemployed for many years. Best gratuitous advice I can give you is don't give up;something WILL turn up if you persevere. Yes, I DO actually have a very good idea just how hard that can be. Good luck
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#24
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 2:58 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:I've been out of work for a year

Really? Oh I'm truly sorry to hear that GC.

I worked with the unemployed for many years. Best gratuitous advice I can give you is don't give up;something WILL turn up if you persevere. Yes, I DO actually have a very good idea just how hard that can be. Good luck

Thank you for your concern, it's much appreciated. However I'm not able to work a steady job because of injuries suffered at previous job, trying to do some woodworking when I can.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#25
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 12:19 am)Godschild Wrote: Please bring less childish arguments to the table, we've been through all those so many times it hurts to read them.
By the way welcome to the forum, it's nice to meet you.


And although its true we've seen this arguement many times I still can't remember your conclusive answer to it.
Please, humor us with your awesome intellect for a moment... :-)
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#26
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 12:19 am)Godschild Wrote: Please bring less childish arguments to the table, we've been through all those so many times it hurts to read them.
By the way welcome to the forum, it's nice to meet you.

Well, that post wasn't a complete waste; at least you undermined your own argument. As you pointed out, being new here I won't have read those insightful rebuttals.

How can anyone be asked to believe in a god who is logically contradictory. Answers on a postcard.


When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11
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#27
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 12:00 am)genkaus Wrote:
(April 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Drich Wrote: The question should be; is He bound by your understanding of it.

To the extent our understanding of it is complete - yes, he is.

So nothing excapes from your grasp of logic? All the former unknowns of the universe have some how been accounted for? Therefore rendering your brand of logic "complete?"

If so then please define or lay the foundation of said logic for us.
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#28
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 12:19 am)Godschild Wrote:
(April 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm)tryblinking Wrote: logic > god

Ah, Lord God! Behold, you have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for you.
—Jeremiah 32:17

That means any task can be done, which would includes setting himself an impossible task. Obviously, that breaks logic. So, he couldn't create a stone so large he couldn't lift it, as a physical example. Could he make a 4-sided triangle. Could end his existence, or make 5 equals of himself.

More fundamentally, he cannot choose to exist and not exist at the same time. That breaks logic, hence ^.

he also can choose to forget things permanently:

I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake; and I will not remember your sins.
—Isaiah 43:25

for a deity advertised as constantly consistent and unchanging, that's a logical contradiction right there.

Please bring less childish arguments to the table, we've been through all those so many times it hurts to read them.
By the way welcome to the forum, it's nice to meet you.

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#29
RE: Is god bound by logic?
(April 30, 2012 at 3:11 am)Godschild Wrote: However I'm not able to work a steady job because of injuries suffered at previous job, trying to do some woodworking when I can.

No wonder you can sympathise with Jesus....

EDIT: I do truly sympathise with your situation, been there myself, but that was too good an opportunity to have a sly dig to pass up Smile
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#30
RE: Is god bound by logic?
Probably a gpod.time to remind you, G-C, that merely because you spew forth some apologetic shit does not mean that anyone has taken you seriously.

Your fairy tales are childish...we are not responsible for that sad state of affairs. You and generations of earlier nuts are responsible
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