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I'd heard vague plans about something like this and it looks like it might be happening. Also, according to this California delegate, the DNC are refusing elected Sanders delegates entry into the California section, putting "reserved" signs on their seats. Not sure how accurate any of that information is, but if true it's very disturbing, and yet another example of public relations mismanagement. As Susan Sarandon said earlier, you don't unify people by taking away their voices.
(July 28, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Pfft, everyone should just vote Trump.
No, nobody should. This isn't simply him "telling it like it is" or "we need to be tough". This is a person who thinks political competition is a blood sport and uses the same marketing as mind rot "reality TV". It isn't intellectual in the slightest, and on top of that it is, like I said a page out of WW2 German demagoguery.
I hated Bush Jr but both he and Reagan NEVER would have conducted themselves with the same language.
Just think if Trump spoke at a State Of The Union like he campaigns.
Trump, "My fellow Americans, the state of our Union is YUGE, our enemies are bleeding out of their whatevers, and low engergy. China sucks, but like my hands our country is YUGE".
That is bullshit Jerry Springer garbage, and while it may be great for cable, that rhetoric is toxic in politics and global diplomacy. This is not Trump's personal reality TV show.
Trump is unfit for any office, much less the White House. If you want to hire him to star in another "Jackass" movie sequel that is one thing, but he is running for office.
(July 28, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Pfft, everyone should just vote Trump.
No, nobody should. This isn't simply him "telling it like it is" or "we need to be tough". This is a person who thinks political competition is a blood sport and uses the same marketing as mind rot "reality TV". It isn't intellectual in the slightest, and on top of that it is, like I said a page out of WW2 German demagoguery.
I hated Bush Jr but both he and Reagan NEVER would have conducted themselves with the same language.
Just think if Trump spoke at a State Of The Union like he campaigns.
Trump, "My fellow Americans, the state of our Union is YUGE, our enemies are bleeding out of their whatevers, and low engergy. China sucks, but like my hands our country is YUGE".
That is bullshit Jerry Springer garbage, and while it may be great for cable, that rhetoric is toxic in politics and global diplomacy. This is not Trump's personal reality TV show.
Trump is unfit for any office, much less the White House. If you want to hire him to star in another "Jackass" movie sequel that is one thing, but he is running for office.
(July 28, 2016 at 7:30 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I agree, nobody should vote Trump. That doesn't mean I have to vote Clinton though.
Not legally no, but considering the damage Trump would do in office, I would simply advise you to hold your nose and vote for Hillary to live to fight another day.
I really don't think Hillary is as horrible as everyone makes her out to be. Especially when you compare what Nixon Reagan and Bush did of which none of them were impeached or spent a day in jail. Now again, Bernie supports her and Michelle does too. And if you'd watch Michelle's speech, she does not come across as a liar but very genuine. Everyone forgets how much Obama was attacked even before he took office. Hillary has been attacked for 25 years long before she took office. And if Bernie had won, Trump would be aiming his demagoguery at him.
Simply put, now is not the time for a protest vote or obtaining from voting. You certainly can do what you want, but I am not going to call it a wise move. It would be to me like saying in 28 or 29, how much damage could Hitler do if I don't vote for his opposition. And again, it isn't that Trump could topple the government the first day or even in a year, but his demagoguery is most certainly a threat to global stability. I really wish he were just a joke, but he isn't and to sit this out because you don't like her is a mistake.
No, nobody should. This isn't simply him "telling it like it is" or "we need to be tough". This is a person who thinks political competition is a blood sport and uses the same marketing as mind rot "reality TV". It isn't intellectual in the slightest, and on top of that it is, like I said a page out of WW2 German demagoguery.
I hated Bush Jr but both he and Reagan NEVER would have conducted themselves with the same language.
Just think if Trump spoke at a State Of The Union like he campaigns.
Trump, "My fellow Americans, the state of our Union is YUGE, our enemies are bleeding out of their whatevers, and low engergy. China sucks, but like my hands our country is YUGE".
That is bullshit Jerry Springer garbage, and while it may be great for cable, that rhetoric is toxic in politics and global diplomacy. This is not Trump's personal reality TV show.
Trump is unfit for any office, much less the White House. If you want to hire him to star in another "Jackass" movie sequel that is one thing, but he is running for office.
Or a secret Muslim or a secret Communist When Trump get's tired of masturbating over himself in the mirror he masturbates of over pictures of Joseph McCarthy.
(July 28, 2016 at 7:30 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I agree, nobody should vote Trump. That doesn't mean I have to vote Clinton though.
There should be something in place to disqualify Clinton or something.
Ugggggg. I'd love for Cheney and Bush to be in prison, but to try to equate Hillary's mistake to that, or even close to the demagoguery of Trump is not even close.
This goes for BOTH parties. You look at the political history even all the way back to the founders, you can see politicians and even the media, which back at the founding, would have been only newspapers, the same muckraking. If we all pushed our desires to put the opposition in prison there would be a civil war every decade. It still amount to pragmatism and picking your battles. And right now there is only ONE politician running that is a danger to national and global stability.
I think Tibs is safe to vote for Stein or Johnson in MA.
FL voters, OH voters, PA voters---voting third party would be, IMO, cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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