Planned Parenthood against the black population

[Kitan Etos]

An opinion should still have merit.

[Esquilax]

Oh, so now that you realize that you were wrong about my position, instead of apologizing, you opt to double down...

Who's wrong about your position? I've had you pegged from the moment you came in here blathering about the first thing you thought, without bothering to research first.

I QUOTED IT TO SHOW MINAMALIST WHERE AND WHY I DISAGREE WITH IT, or do you not get that? Apparently you DON'T understand that it's Minimalists source and not mine, otherwise you'd understand why someone may quote anothers post to clarify what the hell they are responding to.

And apparently you don't understand why quoting a source you don't agree with doesn't demonstrate anything that you actually believe is true, nor do you understand that ignoring parts of a statement and the surrounding context in order to make a source say something opposite to what the writer meant is fundamentally dishonest.

How did I misrepresent the above paragraph? The parts I bolded were in reference to Sanger hiring black people, which means nothing as I pointed out. The quote "Lynchings and Jim Crow laws gave blacks good reason to be wary of attempts to limit the number of children they bore." is purely conjecture. Furthermore if one was attempting to exterminate the black population and realized that blacks were wary of white doctors, then it'd be smart to hire black doctors and staff now wouldn't it?

After all a duck hunter doesn't use decoys that look like foxes, he attracts duck with decoys that look like ducks...

The paragraph- and the broader context both of the source itself and Sanger's history, neither of which you evidently thought worthy of consideration before making up your mind- make it clear that Sanger was speaking of hiring black doctors in the context of making her efforts more obviously friendly to the black community at the time, to avoid incipient misconceptions and distrust, and in fact, to specifically focus on serving the reproductive needs of the black community, since many birth control outfits of the time were segregated. You, based on apparently nothing but the fact that you'd previously opted to adopt the opposite position, decided that that paragraph really meant that she was hiring "Sambos" in order to operate some kind of shady eugenics plot, something that is not evidenced anywhere, and something that both the black community at the time, and the people who've actually studied Sanger's life, do not agree with you on.

When the utter dearth of evidence for your position is pointed out to you, you simply dismiss the parts that disagree with you as "conjecture," as though your opinion is anything more established than that, and as if there wasn't demonstrable history linked within to show it as better founded than your wild, dishonest claims.

How about none of the above.

No, it turned out to be one of the options: you didn't read it, but you decided it was wrong anyway.

My disagreement is based off of Sanger's own comments.

Your disagreement is based on a misrepresentation of a quote mine of Sanger's own comments, that you're clinging desperately to despite this being roundly shown to be false. Or are you really saying that you know better than the people who've actually studied her, and the black advocates for her cause that knew her when she was alive? If so, how do you intend to justify that ludicrous position?

I do fear we've gotten off track, though: you came in here to assert that Planned Parenthood was against the black community, and in support of this you've opted to focus on Margaret Sanger. Do you understand that this is the genetic fallacy, that modern Planned Parenthood is a different beast than the one in the thirties, and that organizations can exist without being a carbon copy advocacy group for the beliefs of their founders?

[Huggy Bear]

[Kitan Etos]

Black people just need to get over themselves. I went there.

[Faith No More]

Black people just need to get over themselves.  I went there.

Um...what?

[Jesster]

Black people just need to get over themselves.  I went there.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I may agree that there have been some vast overreactions surrounding BLM, but I also can't deny that a good number of complaints from their end are valid. I just don't think any of it is being handled all too well.

Of course, I don't think this is a BLM thread. Whatever. Don't let my post derail this.

[Athene]

Black people just need to get over themselves.  I went there.

Consummate whiner and attention whore extraordinaire says black people need to "get over themselves".
Oh, the irony...it's killing me.

[account_inactive]

Black people just need to get over themselves.  I went there.

Well, that's one way to get yourself hated around here.

[LastPoet]

You know, as it stands for Kit, any attention is good, even negative attention.

He wasn't always like this, I reckon.

[Athene]

You know, as it stands for Kit, any attention is good, even negative attention.

He wasn't always like this, I reckon.

Kitan's  always struck me as a bitter, desperate and cheap. I'm sure his sentiment is relatively sincere, but I also I believe there's nothing he wouldn't say to appear brash and edgy...most likely because he doesn't as much confidence in his intellect as he leads people to believe.

It's all part of his charm, really.