Afterlife

[deleteduser12345]

[LadyForCamus]

You're a guy/gal on the internet who spouts complete nonsense about how particle physics explains the afterlife, and claims that (s)he can remote-view while being unconscious. How much respect did you expect?
By this point, everyone probably hopes for your sake that you are just trolling.

I'm not asking you for respect, but I do hope you can come up with more creative ad hominems while we get to know each other

Sciency-word salad will not fly here. Do you know one of the members you have been trying to debate with in this thread is an actual physicist, and could probably eat you for breakfast?

[DLJ]

My laptop dies occasionally.  I has a blue fit and stops communicating.  Later it comes back to life and offers a report of its experience to its transcendent creator.

One day it will be permanently dead.  Incapable of receiving input or producing output.

It will add to the pile of techno-junk in Guangdong Province to wait and decompose.

The parts will be recycled and the process will pollute the lungs of children as they burn the wires to expose copper, melt circuit boards in pots to extract lead or dunk the boards in acid to remove the gold.

But what of the operating system and the apps?

Where do the soldiers go after their Call of Duty has ended?

And all the pretty girls who can't afford clothes ... where do they go after my laptop dies?

Love the poetic metaphor!  

In the case of reality, the universe itself would the operating system and you are the answerer to the Call of Duty or the dancing naked lady.

Consciousness only requires a few basic forces of the universe to operate (mainly space and electromagnetism), a physical body made of atoms gives it the opportunity to localize in time and space to create 4d growth patterns through time and experience the 5d fruits or deficits of that growth.
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On that basis, my laptop's naked ladies are conscious.

This somehow makes them more erotic. But, sadly, they are 2d shadows on a 3d wall.

That we are 4d shadows on a 5d wall is an intriguing assertion, I look forward to being persuaded.

[deleteduser12345]

@OP

I don't believe in an afterlife because it's just an idea pulled out of thin air and there's no evidence in its favor. It's just wishful thinking and makes no sense.

[purplepurpose]

@OP

I don't believe in an afterlife because it's just an idea pulled out of thin air and there's no evidence in its favor. It's just wishful thinking and makes no sense.

Believers usually counter it by saying that they basically persue ideals of love and unity, so even if their are wrong, their fake idealistic goal are still better then average egoistical life of atheists.

So, if they are wrong, nothing bad happens if they were unnaturally caring or fearful of God, its still a noble life. If they were right, they become Gods "little angels". They position is much bitter or harder to live by, but its a win anyway.

[deleteduser12345]

@OP

I don't believe in an afterlife because it's just an idea pulled out of thin air and there's no evidence in its favor. It's just wishful thinking and makes no sense.

Believers usually counter it by saying that they basically persue ideals of love and unity, so even if their are wrong, their fake idealistic goal are still better then average egoistical life of atheists.

So, if they are wrong, nothing bad happens if they were unnaturally caring or fearful of God, its still a noble life. If they were right, they become Gods "little angels". They position is much bitter or harder to live by, but its a win anyway.

Pascal's wager? No thanks, I don't fear nonsense and don't waste my time on nonsense.

[purplepurpose]

Believers usually counter it by saying that they basically persue ideals of love and unity, so even if their are wrong, their fake idealistic goal are still better then average egoistical life of atheists.

So, if they are wrong, nothing bad happens if they were unnaturally caring or fearful of God, its still a noble life. If they were right, they become Gods "little angels". They position is much bitter or harder to live by, but its a win anyway.

Pascal's wager? No thanks, I don't fear nonsense and don't waste my time on nonsense.

After listening to a few serious believers, I cant say that their attempts to live their life in a more caring or loving manner is stupid, even if its under the guidance of imaginary sky daddy who "motivates" them trough holy scripture.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yet another service we provide. Though I'm pretty sure Roz was referring to your application of pascal's wager, which is nonsense regardless of what your opinion of religious (or non-religious) motivations and outcomes may be. Is the inability to form a cogent thought or follow a conversation regarding the same an effect of living that "noble life"?

[Angrboda]

I hope you realize that I am not compelled to believe you. Have you ever considered the James Randi Challenge? There is a million dollars waiting just for you.

I'm not asking you to.  Looks like the challenge has been terminated. http://web.randi.org/the-million-dollar-challenge.html

Regardless, demonstration of such an ability would be of landmark importance. You'd be famous. Have you not sought out further testing?

[Angrboda]