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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:15 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 6:50 pm)Expired Wrote: (August 16, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: We are not the only type of matter nor space-time region within a universe and the universe has a fixed membrane. Our region is growing and once the expansion pressure on the the other regions reaches a certain point, they will merge. Like two bubbles combining membranes and internal space into a single one.
The first of several mergers would be with the region that directly surrounds ours, the astral or water realm. "Raising of the dead" etc...
If you know the elemental natures of the individual regions, their shape, and order of merger....you can very easily translate it into a prophesy story for any culture using their language.
The last merger would be the matter side of the universe with the anti-matter side. The "Great Perfection of the Universe" or Frashokereti as the Zoroastrians phrased it, "when the mountains would melt into rivers of metal which will burn the wicked but be like warm milk to the righteous." In the bible: 2 Peter 3:10 “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
Then "all has been made new"
"Thy Kingdom Come." is literal and inevitable how ever far off into the future it is.
Primitive phraseology for a primitive people but there are underlying and reoccurring trends that are pan-cultural.
Thank's for the heads up. Just so you don't mistake me, I take the bible and most other "spiritual" texts as near 100% allegory/metaphor. I look for patterns in stories across cultures because fiction is often employed to hide real information. In the not so recent past is was considered one of the highest art forms.
I've also developed a purely geometric model of cosmological order and many of the shape/functions translate as major "religious" story elements.
For instance: My model predicts our specific regions of space time is a torus with an expansive wave front traveling around the horizontal ring. Very elegantly represented as a serpent biting it's tail. The Ouroboros. It conveys both shape and unidirectional motion around in a circle.
Due to super-symmetry of particle creation out a null state, there is a matching rotating tours on the top haf of the universe that is the anti-matter cosmos. It's traveling in the opposite direction, "backward in time"...not really just relatively. It's going forward to itself and the stuff inside. Anyway, 2 of the 10 major feature I've found at this scale are rotating ring tori, one above, one below.
Now check this out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
Historical representations
Antiquity
Egypt
The first known appearance of the ouroboros motif is in the Enigmatic Book of the Netherworld, an ancient Egyptian funerary text in KV62, the tomb of Tutankhamun, in the 14th century BC. The text concerns the actions of the god Ra and his union with Osiris in the underworld. In an illustration from this text, two serpents, holding their tails in their mouths, coil around the head and feet of an enormous god, who may represent the unified Ra-Osiris. Both serpents are manifestations of the deity Mehen, who in other funerary texts protects Ra in his underworld journey. The whole divine figure represents the beginning and the end of time.[6]
And this: https://henadology.wordpress.com/theolog...eru/mehen/
In the first place, reference is made to “the bark of Mehen” where one might expect the bark of Re. Second, the ‘Shining Sun’, with “paths of fire” around it, is said to “guard the paths for the great bark of Mehen,” whose bow is said to be turned around. It is said that the bark of Mehen makes a circle in myriads of myriads of years.
And I'm still trying to find the link but I've read Re saying that if the two Mehen serpents were ever allowed to mate, they would destroy the universe.
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:17 pm
From an entirely personal point of view, I'll be going into surgery and having my organs harvested to help others.
After that I'm getting barbequed, extra crispy.
of course, that will be my body. Anything that makes me "me": personality, etc, will have long since ceased to exist.
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:21 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 6:51 pm)robvalue Wrote: Erm....
Astral and water realm?
Do you mean the sky and the sea? Not sky and sea. Symbolically it is the merger of the earth cosmos/realm with the water cosmos/realm.
Yes, they are the same. The River Stix of "lost souls" in ancient literature. Many associations of the underworld being "underwater".
It's an entire cosmos, like ours that overlaps it and stretches out a bit beyond. It's the place of "residual emotion" for souls. If they have nothing holding them there, the electromagnetic force of the universe (tunnel of light) pulls them to the center of the universe outside of both previous space-times.
And yes there is a fire and air realm but those are on the anti-matter, top half of the universe. We are on the bottom half or "night side" symbolically speaking. Or sun set side.
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:22 pm
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Is that all, or.......can you tell us more?
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Okay.
I assume you have peer reviewed scientific sources to back up these outrageous claims?
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:24 pm
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(August 16, 2016 at 7:17 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: From an entirely personal point of view, I'll be going into surgery and having my organs harvested to help others.
After that I'm getting barbequed, extra crispy.
of course, that will be my body. Anything that makes me "me": personality, etc, will have long since ceased to exist.
Neat fact: During the course of an average adult's life time, they shed near their body weight in skin cells. It's like there a whole 'nother dead you that was sacrificed so that the living you could live.
I suppose that's better than having to molt once a year.
(August 16, 2016 at 7:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: ...................................................................................................
Is that all, or.......can you tell us more?
I can tell you a lot more if you have the popcorn for it. What would you like to explore?
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:27 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 7:17 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: From an entirely personal point of view, I'll be going into surgery and having my organs harvested to help others.
After that I'm getting barbequed, extra crispy.
of course, that will be my body. Anything that makes me "me": personality, etc, will have long since ceased to exist.
I'm actually wondering what you might taste like barbequed.
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:30 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 7:27 pm)Expired Wrote: (August 16, 2016 at 7:17 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: From an entirely personal point of view, I'll be going into surgery and having my organs harvested to help others.
After that I'm getting barbequed, extra crispy.
of course, that will be my body. Anything that makes me "me": personality, etc, will have long since ceased to exist.
I'm actually wondering what you might taste like barbequed.
Forget donating our bodies to science after we die. Let's have a cookout! I go best with spicy seasoning.
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:31 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I can tell you a lot more if you have the popcorn for it. What would you like to explore?
Popcorn, lol..no..I'm going to toke a bowl and just smile to myself. I'd sort of hoped you wouldn't need any prompting to go flying around the moon for me. After all, how could I know what I wanted to know about what I don't know? You're the one with the map. Lemme set the mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gO_lxThc1M
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RE: Afterlife
August 16, 2016 at 7:36 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 7:22 pm)robvalue Wrote: Okay.
I assume you have peer reviewed scientific sources to back up these outrageous claims?
What kind of scientific evidence would you look for, for things outside our observable universe, let alone outside our local space-time region?
I've found corroboration on the rotating torus shape of our "earth realm" (entire physical cosmos) in the CMB radiation. If our observable universe is some tiny spherical region within the torus, there will be an on incoming side and an ongoing side...hemispherical asymmetry,
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