Sam Harris On Trump........

[Brian37]

Mic drop.  Penguin 2.0 out....

I hope you are not the real Pete Rose, and if you are his fan you prove that there was no "mic drop".

[Excited Penguin]

Ok, I can understand that. You don't necessarily disagree with him, you're just jealous of him.

Thanks for your honesty.

Yeah, and I'm jealous of you because you are able to engage in such a considerate and thoughtful way. I'm not disagreeing with you, since yours is the only possible position on every given topic.

Yeah, you nailed it.

Yeah, but other people do this too. I don't know why I'm the only one always getting shit for it.

I'm only human abaris. Why does everyone expect me to be perfect all the time? I'm not. I get emotional and arrogant. That just shows I don't have better arguments. You should point that out instead of just responding to me in a similar manner if you're so much better than me.

[Brian37]

Yeah, you're right. I'm biased because Harris is and emetic to me. Someone stating the very obvious as if it was something sensational, although it's nothing more than a "no shit Sherlok" moment. Endorsing torture under certain circumstances, broad brushing entire cultures, religions or people. Endorsing aggressive war under certain circumstances (look up his essays on Iraq) and generally being so far up the Ivory Tower that he doesn't see what's happening on the ground below.

No, he doesn't speak to me or for me. If you enjoy, be my guest. I certainly won't argue over tastes.

Ok, I can understand that. You don't necessarily disagree with him, you're just jealous of him.

Thanks for your honesty.

What the fuck? That is a bullshit tactic. Criticism of famous people left or right does not automatically secretly mean you want to be them. I don't care if you are talking about Trump or Sam or Hillary. If you are resorting to that that is simply childish.

Abris is is under no obligation to value anything blindly that Sam says. The issue is Trump and we have seen that script before in Jim Crow and McCarthyism and WW2 Germany. Abris is making it an economically dangerous point of view, if I understand him correctly, but the end result for both of us is he is unfit for office. Abris is under no obligation to agree with me either. 

"You're jealous" is schoolyard crap.

[GrandizerII]

Yeah, and I'm jealous of you because you are able to engage in such a considerate and thoughtful way. I'm not disagreeing with you, since yours is the only possible position on every given topic.

Yeah, you nailed it.

Yeah, but other people do this too. I don't know why I'm the only one always getting shit for it.

I'm only human abaris. Why does everyone expect me to be perfect all the time? I'm not. I get emotional and arrogant. That just shows I don't have better arguments. You should point that out instead of just responding to me in a similar manner if you're so much better than me.

But when/if someone does point that out, sometimes you'll still be nasty anyway. In fact, sometimes you just throw insults for the sake of it, without much justification for them whatsoever.

[Excited Penguin]

Ok, I can understand that. You don't necessarily disagree with him, you're just jealous of him.

Thanks for your honesty.

What the fuck? That is a bullshit tactic. Criticism of famous people left or right does not automatically secretly mean you want to be them. I don't care if you are talking about Trump or Sam or Hillary. If you are resorting to that that is simply childish.

Abris is is under no obligation to value anything blindly that Sam says. The issue is Trump and we have seen that script before in Jim Crow and McCarthyism and WW2 Germany. Abris is making it an economically dangerous point of view, if I understand him correctly, but the end result for both of us is he is unfit for office. Abris is under no obligation to agree with me either. 

"You're jealous" is schoolyard crap.

The part about jealousy is a logical conclusion after you think about what he said, which is that basically it's not that he disagrees with Harris, but that he's pointing out obvious stuff. Ok, dude, if I were the one pointing that obvious stuff out abaris wouldn't care. But Harris is famous for it, he thinks, so he's famous for basically nothing. Of course he's going to resent him for it. That's what jealousy is.

[Excited Penguin]

Yeah, but other people do this too. I don't know why I'm the only one always getting shit for it.

I'm only human abaris. Why does everyone expect me to be perfect all the time? I'm not. I get emotional and arrogant. That just shows I don't have better arguments. You should point that out instead of just responding to me in a similar manner if you're so much better than me.

But when/if someone does point that out, sometimes you'll still be nasty anyway. In fact, sometimes you just throw insults for the sake of it, without much justification for them whatsoever.

Well, I'm basically an idiot.

[Thumpalumpacus]

That's quite the extrapolation you have going on there. Assume much?

Never mind, that was a dumb question.

[Excited Penguin]

That's quite the extrapolation you have going on there. Assume much?

Never mind, that was a dumb question.

Thing is, I don't necessarily think it's true. I'm just arguing a point. If I'm wrong, he can say why and we'll have a conversation. But whatever, I know you think I'm scum of the earth no matter what I do.

[PETE_ROSE]

Mic drop.  Penguin 2.0 out....

I hope you are not the real Pete Rose, and if you are his fan you prove that there was no "mic drop".

No, I'm not him. Don't follow baseball. Never have. The short version is once upon a time I gambled. A lot.

Now I have a new hobby. Conversing with you heathens and trying to guess how many beers deep Penguin is into the days 12-pack.

[Excited Penguin]

I hope you are not the real Pete Rose, and if you are his fan you prove that there was no "mic drop".

No, I'm not him.  Don't follow baseball.  Never have.  The short version is once upon a time I gambled.  A lot.  

Now I have a new hobby.  Conversing with you heathens and trying to guess how many beers deep Penguin is into the days 12-pack.

Haha, none at the moment.