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Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 24, 2016 at 4:28 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/robert-r...heres-why/
Quote:The best argument for a single-payer health plan is the recent decision by giant health insurer Aetna to bail out next year from 11 of the 15 states where it sells Obamacare plans. Aetna’s decision follows similar moves by UnitedHealth Group, the nation’s largest health insurer, and by Humana, another one of the giants.
All claim they’re not making enough money because too many people with serious health problems are using the Obamacare exchanges, and not enough healthy people are signing up.
The problem isn’t Obamacare per se. It lies in the structure of private markets for health insurance – which creates powerful incentives to avoid sick people and attract healthy ones. Obamacare is just making this structural problem more obvious.
One wonders if these rich corporate cocksuckers could ever "make enough money" to satiate them?
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 11:25 am
It needs to happen we need a single payer system. The fact is Obamacare or affordable healthcare is a joke
a cruel joke. I mean im self employed at the moment and i had a good healthcare option i could afford for 60 a moth.
But the next year price hikes and other went up to 200+ a month. You know i am glad Aetna is dropping out i would
rather pay low cost for government run healthcare than for a expensive premium insurance.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 11:43 am
Insurance - all insurance really - is basically a Ponzi scheme. It needs healthy people who don't use the service to subsidize the sick ones who do. Just like auto insurance needs good drivers to subsidize bad ones, just like life insurance needs young people to subsidize the old who are likely to die and claim benefits.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 11:46 am
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Don't forget the other end of it. It also needs to reduce the number of people, who - after joining young and subsidizing the old/sick then become old/sick and need care/die themselves... collecting benefits.
They make their nut by refusing to render the services already paid for, by wiggling out of the contractual obligations they themselves wrote as a marketing tool.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 11:54 am
Yeah - that was the premise of Sicko.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 1:03 pm
So in the meanwhile i have health issues so i am like fuck i need insurance wait not need forced to have it because
Obamacare is like hey if you don't have insurance ill get the money another way. The other side of this fucking joke
if you earn a decent amount of money chances are your insurance will be expensive so what the fuck. It's like legalized
robbery at this point when it comes to healthcare. You have a shitty income here you get cheap insurance because you
struggle to play bills. Hey you earn a lot of money oh hey sorry but your healthcare is going to be expensive and you
will struggle. What.. a complete joke...
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Hoarding money is joy by itself.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 1:18 pm
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(August 28, 2016 at 1:03 pm)dyresand Wrote: So in the meanwhile i have health issues so i am like fuck i need insurance wait not need forced to have it because
Obamacare is like hey if you don't have insurance ill get the money another way. The other side of this fucking joke
if you earn a decent amount of money chances are your insurance will be expensive so what the fuck. It's like legalized
robbery at this point when it comes to healthcare. You have a shitty income here you get cheap insurance because you
struggle to play bills. Hey you earn a lot of money oh hey sorry but your healthcare is going to be expensive and you
will struggle. What.. a complete joke...
That's how an income based subsidy works. If you can afford to pay the full price- you pay the full price. If you can't, someone else covers the difference (remember, these fuckers won't save your life for free)..let's call that someone "Obama".
-Thanks Obama 
It's been legalized robbery for some time, and insurance helped it get to be that way..in the same way that bail bondsmen helped bail-setting become a racket.
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 5:51 pm
(August 28, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 1:03 pm)dyresand Wrote: So in the meanwhile i have health issues so i am like fuck i need insurance wait not need forced to have it because
Obamacare is like hey if you don't have insurance ill get the money another way. The other side of this fucking joke
if you earn a decent amount of money chances are your insurance will be expensive so what the fuck. It's like legalized
robbery at this point when it comes to healthcare. You have a shitty income here you get cheap insurance because you
struggle to play bills. Hey you earn a lot of money oh hey sorry but your healthcare is going to be expensive and you
will struggle. What.. a complete joke...
That's how an income based subsidy works. If you can afford to pay the full price- you pay the full price. If you can't, someone else covers the difference (remember, these fuckers won't save your life for free)..let's call that someone "Obama".
-Thanks Obama
It's been legalized robbery for some time, and insurance helped it get to be that way..in the same way that bail bondsmen helped bail-setting become a racket.
Yep... and i say this with confidence.. Obama really has no spine considering he is talking about single payer now just to attract voters.
It's like shit... we should have had single payer already and be like the other first world countries but hey were to greedy 
In other worlds this guy has a point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpQ2MNaSDo
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RE: Robert Reich - Single Payer System "Inevitable"
August 28, 2016 at 7:29 pm
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The notion of a single payer system was the original Obamacare....what we have now was the concession dems had to make to get the repubs to sign off on -any- system.
-Thanks Obama!
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