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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm
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(August 28, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Like I said: impressionistic bullshit. Take it up with the astrophysicists.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1408.2219
Cosmological Origami: Properties of Cosmic-Web Components when a Non-Stretchy Dark-Matter Sheet Folds
Mark C. Neyrinck (JHU)
(Submitted on 10 Aug 2014 (v1), last revised 16 Jun 2015 (this version, v5))
In the current cosmological paradigm, an initially flat three-dimensional manifold that pervades space (the `dark-matter sheet') folds up to build concentrations of mass (galaxies), and a cosmic web between them. Galaxies are nodes, connected by a network of filaments and walls. The folding is in six-dimensional (3D position, plus 3D velocity) phase space. The positions of creases, or caustics, mark the edges of structures.
Here, I introduce an origami approximation to cosmological structure formation, in which the dark-matter sheet is not allowed to stretch. But it still produces an idealized cosmic web, with nodes, filaments, walls and voids. In 2D, nodes form in `polygonal collapse' (a twist-fold in origami), necessarily generating filaments simultaneously. In 3D, nodes form in `polyhedral collapse,' simultaneously generating filaments and walls. The masses, spatial arrangement, and angular momenta of nodes and filaments are related in the model. I describe some `tetrahedral collapse', or tetrahedral twist-fold, models.
Any relationship to the way I've been describing the same thing is purely coincidental.
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm
(August 28, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 4:59 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Yeah but embryos feed on something.
The universe is clockwork. Don't deny it. Yes, the order of the Infinite Substance, now in flow regular pattern between all the spheres is that "feeding".
Embryo's grow, so does space-time...clocks don't grow.
What the fuck does it feed on? God's sperm???
And the pattern of the universe is infinite conserving itself.
It's called the conservation of matter and energy.
Space expands but it can also be empty and the matter streches out into energy overtime till the death and rebirth or the universe.
Those empty spaces apart of space are influenced by quantum tunneling which allows the universe to reemerge.
By clockwork I mean it runs on its own.
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 28, 2016 at 5:40 pm
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The universe is stubborn, it wont die.
The theology of god will one day.
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm
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(August 28, 2016 at 5:33 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Physicists arent also authorities, there are plenty of counter arguments made by other physicists.
Hey, I'm all for the free market of ideas! May the most comprehensive ones prevail.
(August 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Yes, the order of the Infinite Substance, now in flow regular pattern between all the spheres is that "feeding".
Embryo's grow, so does space-time...clocks don't grow.
What the fuck does it feed on? God's sperm???
And the pattern of the universe is infinite conserving itself.
It's called the conservation of matter and energy.
Space expands but it can also be empty and the matter streches out into energy overtime till the death and rebirth or the universe.
Those empty spaces apart of space are influenced by quantum tunneling which allows the universe to reemerge.
By clockwork I mean it runs on its own. It feeds on ordered and regular vibration. Vibration creates form. The shape of the container predicts it internal standing wave. If you vibrate a round bucket full of water you get a round internal wave formation. Atoms are the main stable internal standing wave of the universe.
How does the universe "rebirth itself" when space-time stretches so far that normal atomic function is no longer possible? After all the black holes evaporate.....how? Quantum magic?
So in your imagination, there's just infinite space with random universes popping out of the quantum hat, not running into each other or some kind of eternal "rebirth" of a single universe that just keeps resurrecting itself like a Jesus that won't go away?
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 28, 2016 at 6:03 pm
(August 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 5:33 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Physicists arent also authorities, there are plenty of counter arguments made by other physicists.
Hey, I'm all for the free market of ideas! May the most comprehensive ones prevail.
(August 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: What the fuck does it feed on? God's sperm???
And the pattern of the universe is infinite conserving itself.
It's called the conservation of matter and energy.
Space expands but it can also be empty and the matter streches out into energy overtime till the death and rebirth or the universe.
Those empty spaces apart of space are influenced by quantum tunneling which allows the universe to reemerge.
By clockwork I mean it runs on its own. It feeds on ordered and regular vibration. Vibration creates form. The shape of the container predicts it internal standing wave. If you vibrate a round bucket full of water you get a round internal wave formation. Atoms are the main stable internal standing wave of the universe.
How does the universe "rebirth itself" when space-time stretches so far that normal atomic function is no longer possible? After all the black holes evaporate.....how? Quantum magic?
So in your imagination, there's just infinite space with random universes popping out of the quantum hat, not running into each other or some kind of eternal "rebirth" of a single universe that just keeps resurrecting itself like a Jesus that won't go away?
How do you know that it feeds on vibrations?
Well you can have one. Either gravity takes over.and you get a big black hole that evaporates into information and the matter reforms through quantum tunneling from information. (Well it's called information). And information is a form of energy so enough of it over a period of time in a dense space can create matter.
And the second option is that the atoms in the universe decay into energy and simply come out through quantum tunneling again but I'm not to sure on this one.
Ad lastly the third option is that a (not even) hypothetical sku daddy is running everything through shitty archaic books.
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 29, 2016 at 1:33 pm
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(August 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Like I said: impressionistic bullshit. Take it up with the astrophysicists.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1408.2219
Cosmological Origami: Properties of Cosmic-Web Components when a Non-Stretchy Dark-Matter Sheet Folds
Mark C. Neyrinck (JHU)
(Submitted on 10 Aug 2014 (v1), last revised 16 Jun 2015 (this version, v5))
In the current cosmological paradigm, an initially flat three-dimensional manifold that pervades space (the `dark-matter sheet') folds up to build concentrations of mass (galaxies), and a cosmic web between them. Galaxies are nodes, connected by a network of filaments and walls. The folding is in six-dimensional (3D position, plus 3D velocity) phase space. The positions of creases, or caustics, mark the edges of structures.
Here, I introduce an origami approximation to cosmological structure formation, in which the dark-matter sheet is not allowed to stretch. But it still produces an idealized cosmic web, with nodes, filaments, walls and voids. In 2D, nodes form in `polygonal collapse' (a twist-fold in origami), necessarily generating filaments simultaneously. In 3D, nodes form in `polyhedral collapse,' simultaneously generating filaments and walls. The masses, spatial arrangement, and angular momenta of nodes and filaments are related in the model. I describe some `tetrahedral collapse', or tetrahedral twist-fold, models.
Any relationship to the way I've been describing the same thing is purely coincidental.
"Proceedings of the 6th International Meeting on Origami in Science, Mathematics, and Education."
You do know what a phase space is, don't you?
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 29, 2016 at 1:52 pm
(August 29, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: "Proceedings of the 6th International Meeting on Origami in Science, Mathematics, and Education."
Hey, when I have absolutely no response left, I laugh too! It's good for you
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 29, 2016 at 2:01 pm
Your face saving responses do nothing to distract from the fact that you're nothing but a crank.
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 29, 2016 at 2:18 pm
(August 28, 2016 at 6:03 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: (August 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
It feeds on ordered and regular vibration.
How do you know that it feeds on vibrations?
You didn't respond
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RE: What if Creationists were Athiest for a day?
August 29, 2016 at 2:24 pm
(August 29, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Your face saving responses do nothing to distract from the fact that you're nothing but a crank.
And opinions are like assholes.
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