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Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
#21
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(September 5, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: From what I'm able worked out and trace in evidence, the stability of this universe is because of regular organization with infinite other universes that are all the same quantum expression (finite wave-form) of an original unfied infinite state (particle with no boundary).  They are all the same size and patterned exactly the same (in different times and spaces to develope differently.

The universe is what in the what what?!?

Quote:The "fine tuning" is geometric and self limiting. No inteligent design or Many Worlds drunken bingo machine special pleading needed. The metaverse is deterministic.

Of course there is no bingo if you invent all new words...
Nothing for nothing but I think that's Boggle or Scrabble....never seen words form in Bingo but I'm sure it randomly happens. Wink

A single universe is a single quantum (discrete measure of motion, spatial wave-form) of an infinite material singularity (infnite unified state, IUS, a"particle" with no boundary.)

The IUS is both infinite spatially and objectively "One" (there is no nothing else...not even nothing) so it's singular wave-form expression is infinite "ones" (an infnite plane of equal sized spheres) that contiues to "cavitate" planes of spheres in it's wake.

This is the first and only symmetry breaking needed. There is no impedence to the planar wavefront and it will continue to cavitate universes into being forever. That is the tenporal expression of infinity. The beginning of the metaverse is obviously not neccesarily the beginning of our universe within the metaversal sphere stack.

The universe is the "ex nihilo" like a vacuum/vapor bubble under water. reletive time-space is what was created and the prexistant matter is flung into similar quantum organization within the bubble. The first micro-quantum predicted by the spherical macro-universe is the spherical atom. They are stble because the universe is stabiled by the pressence of the 12 universes around it and the flows of the IUS (now in super=symmetric motion) around and between the universal void spheres. They flow around each sphere in exactly the same pattern governed by their contact points as vibrational nodes. I have these to be predictive of sub-atomic anatomy and behavior like the pos and neg W bosons from a nuetral Z boson, and the inverese triple arrangement of quarks between protons and neutrons.

This is why the model is completely geometrically deterministic. If the constants on one of these universes (which is the same for them all) can be found to match the constants we find in this universe, then the model, imho, is far more plausible than the Many Worlds metaversal theory of random universe production...and as a side bonus it puts to rest all intelligent design arguements. Because it's completely unecessary.

In theological terms, the creation of a universe is actually a procreation. The order and organization of the progenny is inhernent in the parent. What was reproduced was individuality. Which is why there are individual atoms, individual universes, individual creatures and individual awarenesses like you and I. They are all (nested) holons of the original IUS.

I'm far from done exploring it, but I've been able to lay quite a bit of ground work already. Currently in the process of refining it. =)
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#22
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
o.O
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#23
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 5:00 pm)Alex K Wrote: o.O

Halfway there...you're gonna have to open that right eye all the way up too! Tongue
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#24
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 6, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Alex K Wrote: The universe is what in the what what?!?


Of course there is no bingo if you invent all new words...
Nothing for nothing but I think that's Boggle or Scrabble....never seen words form in Bingo but I'm sure it randomly happens. Wink

A single universe is a single quantum (discrete measure of motion, spatial wave-form) of an infinite material singularity (infnite unified state, IUS, a"particle" with no boundary.)

The IUS is both infinite spatially and objectively "One" (there is no nothing else...not even nothing) so it's singular wave-form expression is infinite "ones" (an infnite plane of equal sized spheres) that contiues to "cavitate" planes of spheres in it's wake.

This is the first and only symmetry breaking needed. There is no impedence to the planar wavefront and it will continue to cavitate universes into being forever. That is the tenporal expression of infinity. The beginning of the metaverse is obviously not neccesarily the beginning of our universe within the metaversal sphere stack.

The universe is the "ex nihilo" like a vacuum/vapor bubble under water. reletive time-space is what was created and the prexistant matter is flung into similar quantum organization within the bubble. The first micro-quantum predicted by the spherical macro-universe is the spherical atom.  They are stble because the universe is stabiled by the pressence of the 12 universes around it and the flows of the IUS (now in super=symmetric motion) around and between the universal void spheres.  They flow around each sphere in exactly the same pattern governed by their contact points as vibrational nodes.  I have these to be predictive of sub-atomic anatomy and behavior like the pos and neg W bosons from a nuetral Z boson, and the inverese triple arrangement of quarks between protons and neutrons.

This is why the model is completely geometrically deterministic.  If the constants on one of these universes (which is the same for them all) can be found to match the constants we find in this universe, then the model, imho, is far more plausible than the Many Worlds metaversal theory of random universe production...and as a side bonus it puts to rest all intelligent design arguements.  Because it's completely unecessary.

In theological terms, the creation of a universe is actually a procreation.  The order and organization of the progenny is inhernent in the parent.  What was reproduced was individuality.  Which is why there are individual atoms, individual universes, individual creatures and individual awarenesses like you and I.  They are all (nested) holons of the original IUS.

I'm far from done exploring it, but I've been able to lay quite a bit of ground work already. Currently in the process of refining it. =)


I bet everyone wish they hadn't fallen asleep during professor Dufus A McBullshit's Intermediate Physical Theology class so they can follow this now.
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#25
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: [...]

In theological terms, the creation of a universe is actually a procreation.  The order and organization of the progenny is inhernent in the parent.  What was reproduced was individuality.  Which is why there are individual atoms, individual universes, individual creatures and individual awarenesses like you and I.  They are all (nested) holons of the original IUS.

[...]

Does anyone other than Arkilogue care about Arkilogue's musings on this subject?
A Gemma is forever.
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#26
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 5:16 pm)Gemini Wrote:
(September 6, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: [...]

In theological terms, the creation of a universe is actually a procreation.  The order and organization of the progenny is inhernent in the parent.  What was reproduced was individuality.  Which is why there are individual atoms, individual universes, individual creatures and individual awarenesses like you and I.  They are all (nested) holons of the original IUS.

[...]

Does anyone other than Arkilogue care about Arkilogue's musings on this subject?

I knew better whether I cared about them if I understood a single word...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#27
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 5:16 pm)Gemini Wrote: Does anyone other than Arkilogue care about Arkilogue's musings on this subject?

Nope. That applies to all subjects.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#28
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
(September 6, 2016 at 10:04 am)Arkilogue Wrote: The expansive constant for each one of these universes
You say that as though it's already a given that there are other universes. Sources? Evidence? Data?
(September 6, 2016 at 10:04 am)Arkilogue Wrote: is exactly the same...because it's a geometric, deterministic model...
...and that even if there are other universes we already know, without ever observing them, exactly how they function, despite the fact that other universes can have a completely different set of "rules" for what reality is, and nothing in physics that we know would prevent that either.
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#29
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
Are there other Universes? I can believe that.

Does every possible Universe, with every possible quantum state, exist in a kind of massive network of Universes? I don't believe that.


My reason for believing these things is that they are what I choose to believe. Tongue
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#30
RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
I wonder Arky, are you 'suffering' any mania lately? In that state one can feel a level of certainty for one's theories which is boundless, even while the ideation can be questionable. Some people enjoy mania but I hear it is a mixed bag.
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