Should a woman be treated differently if...

[Whateverist]

I think people are continuing to take the OP's question way too technically.

As he has already confirmed, he was asking the question in the context of having more/less respect for a woman as a human being depending on how much skin she is showing. That's it lol.

Everything else... such as arresting a person who is nude when it is illegal/inappropriate to be so (or asking them to leave), or declining to hire someone who shows up for a job interview dressed in a dirty/smelly t-shirt with profanity, or having sex with your spouse if you come home from work and they are waiting for you on your bed naked, or speaking to someone differently when they are in policemen uniform... is pretty obvious and carries with it no distinction between being male or female. This is not the context the OP was asking the question in, folks.

We are arguing over technicalities and semantics when every single one of us probably agree on all this.

It seems that way because we're lumpers and so many others are splitters .. except Losty.

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[Mr Greene]

Despite the almost-politician levels of avoiding answering a yes/no question there does seem to be a difference in the way that atheists and theists answer, even if the sample size is rather small.

[Catholic_Lady]

Despite the almost-politician levels of avoiding answering a yes/no question there does seem to be a difference in the way that atheists and theists answer, even if the sample size is rather small.

Impossible to say and a bit of a misrepresentation, since the 4 people who voted "yes" did so because they were taking your question out of the context you meant it in.

I can only speak for myself and the faith I follow, but one of our fundamental beliefs as Christians is that every single human being has inherent value assigned to us by God at the moment of conception, and ought to be treated as such. This is inherent value that we believe cannot be taken away regardless of anything, especially not something as trivial as the presence of absence of clothing.

[John V]

I can only speak for myself and the faith I follow, but one of our fundamental beliefs as Christians is that every single human being has inherent value assigned to us by God at the moment of conception, and ought to be treated as such. This is inherent value that we believe cannot be taken away regardless of anything, especially not something as trivial as the presence of absence of clothing.

I agree that every person has inherent value and therefore deserves a certain amount of respect. However, a person's actions can earn additional respect above that inherent amount - or not. I'd be doing my daughters a disservice to tell them to go ahead and dress like whores, because as human beings they have a certain amount of inherent value that can't be taken away from them. I think they should take that inherent value and build on it. And, I'd bet that if we looked at your wardrobe we'd find that you pay more attention to your appearance than your stated position would warrant.

[Excited Penguin]

I think people are continuing to take the OP's question way too technically.

As he has already confirmed, he was asking the question in the context of having more/less respect for a woman as a human being depending on how much skin she is showing. That's it lol.

Everything else... such as arresting a person who is nude when it is illegal/inappropriate to be so (or asking them to leave), or declining to hire someone who shows up for a job interview dressed in a dirty/smelly t-shirt with profanity, or having sex with your spouse if you come home from work and they are waiting for you on your bed naked, or speaking to someone differently when they are in policemen uniform... is pretty obvious and carries with it no distinction between being male or female. This is not the context the OP was asking the question in, folks.

We are arguing over technicalities and semantics when every single one of us probably agree on all this.

It seems that way because we're lumpers and so many others are splitters .. except Losty.

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I understand senility must be taking its toll, but stop acting like a retard.

[Catholic_Lady]

I can only speak for myself and the faith I follow, but one of our fundamental beliefs as Christians is that every single human being has inherent value assigned to us by God at the moment of conception, and ought to be treated as such. This is inherent value that we believe cannot be taken away regardless of anything, especially not something as trivial as the presence of absence of clothing.

I agree that every person has inherent value and therefore deserves a certain amount of respect. However, a person's actions can earn additional respect above that inherent amount - or not. I'd be doing my daughters a disservice to tell them to go ahead and dress like whores, because as human beings they have a certain amount of inherent value that can't be taken away from them. I think they should take that inherent value and build on it. And, I'd bet that if we looked at your wardrobe we'd find that you pay more attention to your appearance than your stated position would warrant.

I find it disappointing that you are a Christian yet use a word like "whore". And that you would make assumptions about the way I dress, and suggest that it in any way reflects my views that a person should be treated with dignity and respect regardless of how much skin is showing.

[Catholic_Lady]

It seems that way because we're lumpers and so many others are splitters .. except Losty.

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I understand senility must be taking its toll, but stop acting like a retard.

EP, that was mean... 

[Excited Penguin]

I understand senility must be taking its toll, but stop acting like a retard.

EP, that was mean... 

I think it's well deserved. The guy has no boundaries and can't distinguish between a serious conversation and a A69 topic. This is not the first time I've seen him harrassing someone in this manner. Don't think because no one says anything it doesn't necessarily bother them.

There's good fun and then there's just taking it too far, too often.

[John V]

I find it disappointing that you are a Christian yet use a word like "whore".

I assume you're also disappointed in yourself as a Christian for using a word like "harlot," in a thread which you started about "queefs." You were so much into poop that I assumed you were a poe for a long time. Haven't read enough of your stuff to say for sure.

And that you would make assumptions about the way I dress, and suggest that it in any way reflects my views that a person should be treated with dignity and respect regardless of how much skin is showing.

The point, again, is that if you have a variety of clothing, you have it in part because it elicits reactions in other people. We all do. If that's you in your avatar (apologies if it's some pop culture thing or something, if so I don't recognize it), why post that rather than your driver's license photo, or a photo when you just woke up in the morning? You put up a nice picture because you know people will tend to think better of you for it. There's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is pretending it isn't so.

[Catholic_Lady]

I find it disappointing that you are a Christian yet use a word like "whore".

I assume you're also disappointed in yourself as a Christian for using a word like "harlot," in a thread which you started about "queefs." You were so much into poop that I assumed you were a poe for a long time. Haven't read enough of your stuff to say for sure.

And that you would make assumptions about the way I dress, and suggest that it in any way reflects my views that a person should be treated with dignity and respect regardless of how much skin is showing.

The point, again, is that if you have a variety of clothing, you have it in part because it elicits reactions in other people. We all do. If that's you in your avatar (apologies if it's some pop culture thing or something, if so I don't recognize it), why post that rather than your driver's license photo, or a photo when you just woke up in the morning? You put up a nice picture because you know people will tend to think better of you for it. There's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is pretending it isn't so.

As I'm sure you know, I used the word "harlot" sarcastically and as a joke and would never use it to seriously describe someone or the way someone is dressed. As for queef and poop, yeah... I do have a weird sense of humor. If you wanna call making fun of bodily functions as being contrary to Christian principles, go ahead I suppose, I certainly never heard of anything like that being immoral. 

As for your second paragraph, I do care about my appearances. But that doesn't mean I think a woman wearing less clothing should be treated with less respect as a human being. There is no need for the 2 to be mutually exclusive. We can have a desire to present ourselves well, while still treating others with respect when they are not dressed in a way we approve of or don't like.