your views on modern day porn consumption

[Foxaèr]

I enjoy viewing gay porn. It does not in any way affect how I view others around me, because I understand that what I am viewing is a fictional portrayal that serves one purpose: to excite me toward orgasm.

[Whateverist]

Umm .. I think you may have been short changed one other purpose.

What's that? 

Oh, you mean porn?

No, just the value of one of life's pleasures and the exploration and learning of what that can be.  I really think that you can't give another great sexual pleasure if you haven't learned to do the same for your self.  (Doesn't mean I can't be wrong about that, but that is what I think.)

[Whateverist]

I mean, food is most importantly for nourishment but does that make a foodie a pervert? You could look at porn as an exercise in collecting recipes, but frankly I don't think that will make you a great chef. For that you have to tune into to flavors directly.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I have no views on modern porn consumption. I only consume Victorian porn.

Boru

[LadyForCamus]

Umm .. I think you may have been short changed one other purpose.

What's that? 

Oh, you mean porn?

No, FUN! Silly girl! [emoji13]

[Whateverist]

Porn is great. Mostly I don't really use it when I don't have a girlfriend though. If I'm seeing someone, I don't really bother with porn. Also those studies are always worded a certain way to try to make porn seem like it's having more of an affect then it is. There has never been a study that shows that porn has any significant effect on sexual assault. However the language in the anti-porn articles always attempts to imply that, like with this bit you quoted:

They are trying to imply there is a link between porn and violence towards women. However there is none. The reality is that porn is healthy and normal for both sexes. Most women that I've dated or have been close enough friends with to talk about such things, watch and masturbate to porn. What do they even mean by attitudes supporting violence towards women? If there is not actual increase in violence towards women (as there isn't) then it's a totally meaningless statement. Obviously whatever those attitudes (they certainly aren't clear in that article) they don't actually increase violence against women, otherwise the headline would be 'porn increases violence against women.'

The only thing of significance is that college age women are less sexually satisfied if their partner watches porn. That's a dubious stat at best, since it relies on hearsay but probably true, not because of the porn in and of itself but rather because simply because the man's sexual energy is going somewhere else other then his partner.

Also it's good to have you back.

That's good that you normally don't use porn while you have a girlfriend. 

I know there's been women here who have said their husbands look at it and they don't care, but it's very different for me. I would feel devastated and betrayed if my husband had any sort of porn habit. It would make me feel inadequate and like a violation of something sacred and special that is supposed to be shared exclusively between us. But then again, that comes with the territory of having very different views of sexuality.

This is just how far I've gotten so far.  Stopping to check out recommended videos is really slowing me down.  [j/k]

I think hearts and flowers kind of sex may be insufficient for men in the long run.  Pretty sure it doesn't do it for all women either.  But so long as you don't see the just-for-fun aspect of sex, you wouldn't know.  There is something sacred about sex but that's really because of its being a kind of intimacy.  Sex is more than that and if after some number of years you find your husbands physiological response flagging hopefully you'll be willing to explore ways to resurrect him even if that takes you beyond the bounds of sex-as-intimacy.

Here is a reflection question for all the theists in the house: do you think that, to the degree that God created anything, He also created fun on purpose?  If so, for what purpose?

[Foxaèr]

Here is a reflection question for all the theists in the house: do you think that, to the degree that God created anything, He also created fun on purpose?  If so, for what purpose?

Depends. Is it secular fun or religious fun?

[Whateverist]

Here is a reflection question for all the theists in the house: do you think that, to the degree that God created anything, He also created fun on purpose?  If so, for what purpose?

Depends.  Is it secular fun or religious fun?

No easy outs here.  If God created EVERYTHING then He'll have to own all the fun too.  Why would God want there to be fun in the world?  Of course we also see it in otters, dolphins, crows and other animals which don't require all their time and energy for subsistence.  Wouldn't God have made us all have to work hard to survive if He wasn't pleased with fun?  Before I was completely free of religious belief I came to the conclusion God was down with masturbation.  (Do you guys see why I don't hate 'God' so much?  The one I imagined wasn't such a bad Guy.)

[Foxaèr]

Depends.  Is it secular fun or religious fun?

No easy outs here.  If God created EVERYTHING then He'll have to own all the fun too.  Why would God want there to be fun in the world?  Of course we also see it in otters, dolphins, crows and other animals which don't require all their time and energy for subsistence.  Wouldn't God have made us all have to work hard to survive if He wasn't pleased with fun?  Before I was completely free of religious belief I came to the conclusion God was down with masturbation.  (Do you guys see why I don't hate 'God' so much?  The one I imagined wasn't such a bad Guy.)

Ah, but primal animal fun can in no way be compared to human fun, considering that there is the conscious mind at work in the human which is absent in the primal animal.

The consciousness is that which veritably separates us from the true animals, it is what allows us to know the difference between right and wrong.

[brewer]

That's good that you normally don't use porn while you have a girlfriend. 

I know there's been women here who have said their husbands look at it and they don't care, but it's very different for me. I would feel devastated and betrayed if my husband had any sort of porn habit. It would make me feel inadequate and like a violation of something sacred and special that is supposed to be shared exclusively between us. But then again, that comes with the territory of having very different views of sexuality.

Your not the first and more than likely not the last woman I know with the exact same position. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I will say that women that take this position should be up front with their partner about it from the beginning. If they remain silent (either partner) then there will only be disappointment.