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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:13 pm
(August 22, 2010 at 6:09 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'm not saying that we should stop eating meat either. I'm just saying that it being "natural" doesn't make it right. That would be the naturalistic fallacy. I just wanted to point that out I'm not saying that you're saying that natural=right.
Ah I get ya.
I should note that I'm a little tipsy at the moment and I'm currently prone to error in spelling and gamma. So bare with me
A whole bottle of wine can do quite a bit.
Anyway, I do agree that natural doesn't nesseraly mean ok, it's just benifi...fici..benificua...(fuck it)...good for us.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Beneficial? Well, not even that every time. Sometimes there are harmful evolutionary by-products its just that the pros outweigh the cons. Evolution isn't perfection of course, it's just what happens to flourish.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:27 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2010 at 6:28 pm by Ace Otana.)
(August 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Beneficial? Well, not even that every time. Sometimes there are harmful evolutionary by-products its just that the pros outweigh the cons. Evolution isn't perfection of course, it's just what happens to flourish.
I have a well balanced diet between fruit and meat. Meat has alot of protien which is essential for muscle gain. Also fish meat as they say are brain food. Called that for a reason. Meat like Mcdonalds burgers are not healthy. Since much of the meat is from parts of the animal which isn't normally eatern. Crap pretty much. But fresh natural meat like minted lamb (yum!) pork (lovely) and chicken (bloody nice) are all healthy foods for the body.
Nothing makes you stronger than a good lump of well cooked meat.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:37 pm
(August 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: There seems to me to be a clear connection between non-belief and vegetarianism. Once we get rid of the religious notion that man is a higher creation, with a soul, it's harder to justify badly treating other animals then painfully slaughtering them for our meals. Also, those who question religion are more likely to question the prevailing attitude towards our diets. It'd be interesting to see a study on whether there's a correlation. I myself am a pescetarian (I eat seafood, but no meat). Now, I'm not condemning anyone who isn't vegetarian; I'd just like to get people's thoughts on the matter. Well, honestly, I tend to be of the opinion that a meal without chicken, beef, or bacon (especially bacon) is incomplete. My mother, due to getting the Mexican Flu last year, ended up becoming vegetarian, but this only made me stronger in my love of meat, and I even told her once (only half-jokingly) that I'd like to know what human flesh tastes like. Of course, I've heard that it's pretty much identical to veal.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:51 pm
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Ace,
I agree with all the above hidden, I was just responding to your statement that natural=beneficial. Natural isn't always beneficial is all I was trying to add.
(August 22, 2010 at 6:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Of course, I've heard that it's pretty much identical to veal.
I thought it was like pork. Hence the nickname "longpig" for human meat.
Meat is overall my favourite food if anyone's wondering. And I love fish. My favourite food of all is duck.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I'm a pescetarian.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 7:00 pm
(August 22, 2010 at 6:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
I agree with all the above hidden, I was just responding to your statement that natural=beneficial. Natural isn't always beneficial is all I was trying to add.
Stop trying to "Add" because you're confusing me now.
I've finished off a whole bottle of wine remember. I'm suprised that I aven't fucked up yet in my spelling or grammar.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Eating fish is NO different to eating meat!!! Fish is meat!
It's a question of ethics and not morals. I think it's ethically responsible to care about the welfare of sentient beings. On the same tack it'd be ok to eat human roadkill, if no one would be upset.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Since ethics is the study of morality, ethics is in that sense about morals.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 22, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Of course, if reality is amoral then organisms tend to do what they naturally do as long as they have the power to do it.
(Like humans.)
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