My Hatred Of Rednecks...

[Thumpalumpacus]

Just admit your thread was stupid and move on.

Actually I'm glad he started this thread, even if it was only to put up a video riddled with stereotypes and misconceptions. It's nice to see folks supporting us rednecks rather than beating on us, as I think the OP might have intended.

[mcolafson]

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Both of my parents went to college on their GI bill because they were soldiers defending this fuckin country. sic

Defending the fucking country where?  
In Nicaragua?
In Grenada?
In Panama?

[mlmooney89]

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Both of my parents went to college on their GI bill because they were soldiers defending this fuckin country. sic

Defending the fucking country where?  
In Nicaragua?
In Grenada?
In Panama?

Well they were both in Panama yes (actually I think I might have been conceived there lol) But my dad died (from wounds he received while on active duty) when I was 3 so I don't know his whole history but he was an Army Ranger which means he was the one jumping outta helicopters in weird places but that was the 80's. My mom also went places before I was born that I haven't inquired about but since I was born she was in Kuwait, Iraq, Korea, and Germany (which Germany wasn't hostile at that point so we got to come with) I know my Grandfather was in Korea during the war and my Godfather was in Bosnia during the war there. My ex-husband has been deployed to Afghanistan and Africa.

My ex didn't go to college but the rest did use their bill to go and they are all rednecks.

[Mechaghostman2]

Defending the fucking country where?  
In Nicaragua?
In Grenada?
In Panama?

Well they were both in Panama yes (actually I think I might have been conceived there lol) But my dad died (from wounds he received while on active duty) when I was 3 so I don't know his whole history but he was an Army Ranger which means he was the one jumping outta helicopters in weird places but that was the 80's. My mom also went places before I was born that I haven't inquired about but since I was born she was in Kuwait, Iraq, Korea, and Germany (which Germany wasn't hostile at that point so we got to come with) I know my Grandfather was in Korea during the war and my Godfather was in Bosnia during the war there. My ex-husband has been deployed to Afghanistan and Africa.

My ex didn't go to college but the rest did use their bill to go and they are all rednecks.

Not to be rude, but how is going into those places defending the country?

[mlmooney89]

Go ahead tell an army brat that being deployed isn't defending your country. You think my first post on this thread was wordy and blunt I will lay into you so hard it isn't even funny. Please for both of us recant that question.

[mcolafson]

Go ahead tell an army brat that being deployed isn't defending your country. You think my first post on this thread was wordy and blunt I will lay into you so hard it isn't even funny. Please for both of us recant that question.

Well, if we continue about this deployment, it will derail the thread. And it is rather rude.
Nevertheless, I find it rather weird how USA throughout its history defended itself thousand miles away from its borders.

I suppose Japan defended itself in Pearl-Harbor, then.
and yeah, you can call it deployment.

[Jello]

Go ahead tell an army brat that being deployed isn't defending your country. You think my first post on this thread was wordy and blunt I will lay into you so hard it isn't even funny. Please for both of us recant that question.

Well, if we continue about this deployment, it will derail the thread. And it is rather rude.
Nevertheless, I find it rather weird how USA throughout its history defended itself thousand miles away from its borders.

I suppose Japan defended itself in Pearl-Harbor, then.
and yeah, you can call it deployment.

Because a country flying an entire carrier group of aircraft into another country's naval base and blowing the shit out of it's ships is totally equivalent to fighting insurgents alongside government forces, or removing dictators who were cunts for the most part anyway.

[Mechaghostman2]

Go ahead tell an army brat that being deployed isn't defending your country. You think my first post on this thread was wordy and blunt I will lay into you so hard it isn't even funny. Please for both of us recant that question.

My brother is in the Navy, a Seabee, deployed in Afghan for 1 year. Even he acknowledges that he wasn't "defending this country." He talks constantly about the opium fields they secured over there, and he talks constantly about how our freedoms aren't over there, nor do we need defending over there. You want to lay into me? Go ahead and try it. The soldiers, in the words of George Carlin who was in the air force, are brainwashed. Many of them go in either believing the propaganda and lies about our country, or they go in thinking of themselves, because having military service on your resume is a guarantee for employment in decent paying jobs. There's nothing you can say to me on this topic that I haven't already heard. The soldiers don't defend this country nor do they fight for our freedoms. They fight for an empire. Look at Iraq. Saddam wanted to sell oil in the Euro. Well that would've hurt our fiat empire a bit, so we bombed the shit out of them. Tell me, what threat did North Korea or Vietnam have to the United States? Or Iraq during the gulf war? How about Yemen or Libya? We bomb these places because they're not friendly to US business interests, or to our banks, and nothing more. And we wonder why 911 happened?

1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadeq of Iran.
U.S. installs Shah as dictator.

1954: U.S. overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala.
200,000 civilians killed.

1963: U.S. backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem.

1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia.

September 11, 1973: U.S. stages coup in Chile.
Democratically-elected President Salvador Allende assassinated.
Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed.
5,000 Chileans murdered.

1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador.
70,000 Salvadorans and four American nuns killed.

1980's: U.S. trains Osama Bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets.
CIA gives them $3 billion.

1981: Reagan administration trains and funds "contras." 30,000 Nicaraguans die.

1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.
1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis.

1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as President of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington.
U.S. invaded Panama and removes Noriega.
3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties.

1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from U.S.
1991: U.S. enters Iraq.
Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait.

1998: Clinton bombs "weapons factory" in Sudan.
Factory turns out to be making aspirin.

1991 to present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis.
U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombing sanctions.

2000-01: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid."

Sept. 11, 2001: Osama Bin Laden uses his expert CIA training to murder 3,000 people.

We are not hated because of our love for freedom or for our prosperity.
We are hated for our disallowance for others to prosper.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Well, first off, we're not bombing North Korea. And while your list is both true and odious, they were largely devoid of involvement by our military. The blame lies much more in Foggy Bottom, Langley, and the Oval Office than it does the Pentagon.

And while as a veteran agree that we aren't often defending ourselves in our foreign (mid) adventures, having troops stationed in foreign countries is a form of defending our country, because 1) we want to fight wars on soil other than our own, and 2) supporting our alliances is a form of defense.

As I said, there are many military policies and operations I was and am against. But I wouldn't disrespect the service performed by my brothers and sisters in uniform.

[mcolafson]

Well, if we continue about this deployment, it will derail the thread. And it is rather rude.
Nevertheless, I find it rather weird how USA throughout its history defended itself thousand miles away from its borders.

I suppose Japan defended itself in Pearl-Harbor, then.
and yeah, you can call it deployment.

Because a country flying an entire carrier group of aircraft into another country's naval base and blowing the shit out of it's ships is totally equivalent to fighting insurgents alongside government forces, or removing dictators who were cunts for the most part anyway.

maybe you mean freedom-fighters? USA supported freedom-fighters in Afghanistan.
For some mysterious reason USA kills freedom-fighters in Iraq.
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As for some real cunts, one of them was Klaus Barbie. Who should have been strung up right after the war. But,
"The French discovered that Barbie was in U.S. hands and, having sentenced him to death in absentia for war crimes, made a plea to John J. McCloy, U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, to hand him over for execution, but McCloy allegedly refused.[/url] Instead, the CIC allegedly helped him flee to Bolivia with the help of "ratlines" organized by U.S. intelligence services,[13] and Croatian Roman Catholic clergy, including Father Krunoslav Draganović "

So, with American help K. Barbie escaped to Bolivia where he became a close friend of another cunt, Hugo Banzer.
"The combined levels of United States and Brazilian involvement for the coup d'état have been debated but it is apparent that significant clandestine financial & advisory assistance existed at a critical level within for Banzer. With such backing secured, General Banzer emerged as the strong man of the new regime, and, on August 22, was given full power as president."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Banzer


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