If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
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If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
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 RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 10:24 am
(October 13, 2016 at 10:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Space isn't a container. I think of it more as a kind of knowledge about embodied extension. Hi Deepak, what brings you here?
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 RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 12:38 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 10:24 am)Alex K Wrote:(October 13, 2016 at 10:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Space isn't a container. I think of it more as a kind of knowledge about embodied extension. That was uncalled for. ;-) The OP seemed to imply a Newtonian conception of space as a uniformly divided plenum, i.e. a container. I don't find it particularly mystical to consider spacial extension in terms of quantitative information between discrete physical entities that may or may not reflect what people intuitively believe as distance between objects.  RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:11 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 6:10 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: Yeah I get how space is on a curve. They tell you that in like, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th grade science I think? One of those. What I don't get is how empty space which isn't supposed to have anything in it has properties of matter, IE being able to be flexed and warped and pulled like fabric. That doesn't make any sense to me at all. I mean, I get the curve and fabric model, but that doesn't really explain anything but give you a very vague image of the direction gravity flows.What about a space permeating tensor field...like the Higgs field?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder  If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:28 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 11:49 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: How did God do it?He fucked Jesus in the ass and he gave birth to the earth. Quote:No one knows, do you have any logical ideas?The origin of all things will never be figured out. Quote:Sudden large sums of money tend to be bad for the recipient.Send me the money and I'll let you know how I turn out. RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 8:59 am)Alex K Wrote:Scale of size.(October 12, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: So would a field at the lowest end of scale act as such a "stretchy fabric"? Would not the Higgs field having specifically to do with mass conference, having been formed right after the inflation of space-time, be intrinsically linked to "gravity" conferred through space? I think it's the medium of transmission of gravity and "spooky action at a distance." http://www.livescience.com/27920-quantum...light.html
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm
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October 13, 2016 at 1:31 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 7:00 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Little simians on a backwater planet in a very average galaxy of a routine super group think they can figure out the secrets of the Universe.It takes the entire universe and all it's forces to compose just one of you. You are propelled and interpenetrated by then at all times. Under estimate yourself at your own risk.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder  RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 1:31 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:(October 13, 2016 at 7:00 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Little simians on a backwater planet in a very average galaxy of a routine super group think they can figure out the secrets of the Universe.It takes the entire universe and all it's forces to compose just one of you. You are propelled and interpenetrated by then at all times. Under estimate yourself at your own risk. Thanks, Dr. Leary. RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:41 pm
(October 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm)KUSA Wrote:(October 13, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: What about a space permeating tensor field...like the Higgs field?Tell me what a field is. I don't want an explanation of what it does but rather what it actually is. This particular one (Higgs field) I think to be a cuboctahedral lattice aka a vector equilibrium. ![[Image: 106085fdcb9478519e7bc4e84efacd65.jpg]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/10/60/85/106085fdcb9478519e7bc4e84efacd65.jpg) ![[Image: Figure-3-The-cuboctahedral-lattice-is-ma...egular.png]](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jim_Mcgovern4/publication/1748269/figure/fig3/AS:279399996903432@1443625558854/Figure-3-The-cuboctahedral-lattice-is-made-up-of-cells-that-are-either-regular.png)
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder RE: If there's nothing in empty space, then how does it get warped by gravity?
October 13, 2016 at 1:43 pm
We use the same design for cranes and major load bearing structures, it's called the octet truss.
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