Karma poll

[Whateverist]

You again?!?!

https://youtu.be/Xb4-rWVtQnk

[Tonus]

Wrong again Ton.

None of what you said addressed my point. I'm not going to follow you on any of these weird tangents you like to go on. Karma is useless and stupid. It's an idiotic form of "justice."

[Thumpalumpacus]

I knew that you would pull out one more rabbit from your magician hat in order to salvage your sinking boat.      

Yeah, no ... I'm on solid ground. Once more -- this time with feeling.

[Little Rik]

Wrong again Ton.

None of what you said addressed my point.  I'm not going to follow you on any of these weird tangents you like to go on.  Karma is useless and stupid.  It's an idiotic form of "justice."

That is interesting.
Does it means that if you would be God you would have a better system of justice?  

[Little Rik]

I knew that you would pull out one more rabbit from your magician hat in order to salvage your sinking boat.      

Yeah, no ... I'm on solid ground. Once more -- this time with feeling.

Good on you mate.  

Earthquakes or other disaster will not affect you ever.

How lucky you are to be on solid ground.  

[Tonus]

That is interesting.
Does it means that if you would be God you would have a better system of justice?  

That would be correct.

[Little Rik]

That is interesting.
Does it means that if you would be God you would have a better system of justice?  

That would be correct.

Didn't I said that it is interesting?

Please Ton don't be afraid of telling me how your system would work.
Even God would be open to all suggestions.
And guess what!.
If God would be interested to your suggestion he may even make you rich.

Just imagine Ton how many bars of gold he may give you.  

[Tonus]

Please Ton don't be afraid of telling me how your system would work.

Didn't I already explain it? If I am a god, then I can be proactive and make sure that harm does not befall the innocent or undeserving. Then I do not have to wait until after things go wrong so that I can punish additional people in order to achieve an utterly unsatisfying "balance."

It's not difficult to imagine a better system than one where anything can happen to anyone and we comfort ourselves by accepting a poor solution because it's a slightly better option than 'shit happens.' Are you saying that if you were a god you would prefer that system, instead of one where you can make everyone as happy as possible? How cruel and demented are you, Rik?

[Little Rik]

Please Ton don't be afraid of telling me how your system would work.

Didn't I already explain it?  If I am a god, then I can be proactive and make sure that harm does not befall the innocent or undeserving.  Then I do not have to wait until after things go wrong so that I can punish additional people in order to achieve an utterly unsatisfying "balance."

It's not difficult to imagine a better system than one where anything can happen to anyone and we comfort ourselves by accepting a poor solution because it's a slightly better option than 'shit happens.'  Are you saying that if you were a god you would prefer that system, instead of one where you can make everyone as happy as possible?  How cruel and demented are you, Rik?  

What a disappointment Ton!

You start with the wrong foot so to speak.
You presume that God may harm the innocent.
You see a little girl getting hurt and you presume that God wrongly punish her.

How do you know what that little girl was and was doing in a previous life?
This is a typical atheist dogma to presume that we only live once so that little innocent looking girl
was wrongly punished.

How sad Ton.  

How can you make everybody happy if people do not learn how to live in peace and loving each other?
Would you really pass all your students even those who didn't learn anything?

This show that your world is all upside down.  

You still have to learn a lot before you can pass the exams yourself.  

[Tonus]

You start with the wrong foot so to speak.
You presume that God may harm the innocent.
You see a little girl getting hurt and you presume that God wrongly punish her.

Wrong. You based your entire answer on something I did not say.

Our world is one where people harm each other and the only recourse is to react and punish them, but some people get away with hurting others. You state that a better system is one that does the same thing but manages to catch everyone by settling the score after death. Both systems do not prevent wrongdoing, they react to it.

You asked how I would improve this if I was god, and I explained that I would prevent that wrong from being done. I didn't say god harms the innocent, I pointed out that god does not prevent it. You then jump into your bullshit religious explanation about previous lives as if that makes it better. Here's an idea-- if that girl had been prevented from being wicked in a previous life, then the person hurting her now could be prevented from doing so, and the world suddenly becomes a place where people do not hurt one another. You think that a system that has produced thousands --if not millions-- of years of people hurting one another is having any sort of success in teaching them how to live in peace and love?

Your system doesn't work. It sucks. It's no different than a universe without a god or karma. The fact that you seem to think that this is the best possible option because it teaches people to be peaceful and loving is a perfect example of how religious thinking warps people's minds.