Supernatural Evidence?

[Edwardo Piet]

Huggy, we're talking legal rights. We say we're talking legal rights. You keep mixing it up with moral rights and ignoring that we're talking legal rights. For fuck's sake.

What rhymes with "Huggy" but means "obtuse?"

[I_am_not_mafia]

The problem is your "body of evidence" is outdated, both of your links are from 2011, while mine is from 2016, and the article I quoted explicitly stated:

That's not how science works. Unless it is a refutation, which what you posted wasn't, then it adds to the body of evidence and the theory becomes more nuanced over time.

You are ignoring what I said earlier about your binary religious thinking. You can not draw a strict line between male and female brains, the two classes are distinct but share many features. For example men are generally strong and taller than women, but some men are shorter than some women, and some men are weaker than some women. Some men are shorter than some women but also stronger. But in each case they still have enough characteristics to be deemed men. This is why you cannot say that any brain, whether cisgendered or transgendered is 100% male or female.

Here is the relevance; If gender is determined by the brain, how do you explain someone who is gender fluid?

Easy. For someone who is gender fluid, the non-plastic parts of the brain that encode gender identity are even balanced between male and female. Yet gender is also cultural, in the same way that everyone is a balance of nature and nurture. So the plastic parts of the brain change current gender preference over time due to cultural experience.

[Huggy Bear]

If emotions are processed by the brain, how do you explain these fluid emotional states?

Just so we're clear. Is it your position that gender is, or can be determined by ones emotional state?

[Edwardo Piet]

If emotions are processed by the brain, how do you explain these fluid emotional states?

Just so we're clear. Is it your position that gender is, or can be determined by ones emotional state?

No, he meant that Denmark is making you unable to read people's post and because people are emotional and have states and live in states (sometimes The States also known as the U.S. of A) there's so such thing as gender and we should all move to Venus and call each other "Sam the Genderless [Insert Citizen Number here]".

Clearly.

[Huggy Bear]

The problem is your "body of evidence" is outdated, both of your links are from 2011, while mine is from 2016, and the article I quoted explicitly stated:

That's not how science works. Unless it is a refutation, which what you posted wasn't, then it adds to the body of evidence and the theory becomes more nuanced over time.

You are ignoring what I said earlier about your binary religious thinking. You can not draw a strict line between male and female brains, the two classes are distinct but share many features. For example men are generally strong and taller than women, but some men are shorter than some women, and some men are weaker than some women. Some men are shorter than some women but also stronger. But in each case they still have enough characteristics to be deemed men. This is why you cannot say that any brain, whether cisgendered or transgendered is 100% male or female.

No love, that is exactly how science works. You see in your desperation to find an article that agrees with your point, you failed to realize your article quotes the exact same guy I did, Antonio Guillamon; except your article is much older than mine, therefore if there is any discrepancy then the older information is obsolete.

Here is the relevance; If gender is determined by the brain, how do you explain someone who is gender fluid?

Easy. For someone who is gender fluid, the non-plastic parts of the brain that encode gender identity are even balanced between male and female. Yet gender is also cultural, in the same way that everyone is a balance of nature and nurture. So the plastic parts of the brain change current gender preference over time due to cultural experience.

Mind providing a reference?

[ApeNotKillApe]

If emotions are processed by the brain, how do you explain these fluid emotional states?

Just so we're clear. Is it your position that gender is, or can be determined by ones emotional state?

If we're talking about personal gender identity and not biological sex, then sure why not.

Ed Gein made a woman suit out of human skin which he would wear as to be his own mother. Stealing corpses and literally tanning their hides in order to dress up as a corpse is an emotional outburst if I ever saw one

[ApeNotKillApe]

Not conventional transgenderism, wouldn't attribute it to gender dysphoria or somesuch common condition, but still a valid example I think.

[Edwardo Piet]

If gender identity is determined by emotional states what the HELL does that make me

Oh right, a squirrel

[ApeNotKillApe]

A squirrel's emotional state always has some nuts attached to it.

[Edwardo Piet]

I enjoyed mine 5 or 6 times today. 3 or 4 times in the space of 2-3 hours