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William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
#11
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Of course, most individuals in the developed (and, even, developing) world come to an understanding of "zero" sometime between early preschool and first grade.  What is Craig missing?

Funnily enough, he's missing nothing Wink

LOL!!!

You are SO funny!!!   Big Grin
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#12
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 1:06 am)Mudhammam Wrote:
(October 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote: What is Craig missing?
Apparently the ability to communicate to you that the nature of "0" is not entirely understood.

There is a book about the number zero:

https://www.amazon.com/Zero-Biography-Da...0140296476

I read it about 15 years ago, just after it came it out.  Apparently, the whole concept went underground for awhile, as the idea was "banned" in Florence during the high Middle Ages.  Another interesting fact is that you can prove anything if you allow division by zero.  As for Craig, you can Google his CV; he started out as a communications major, earning a BA from Wheaton College in Illinois.  After that, he went to seminary getting master degrees in Bible and Biblical history.  Ditto for his PhDs, which were basically a study in evangelical Christian apologetics.  I don't know that he ever took any "higher mathematics" while in college.  He certainly acts like he knows things, though, such as transfinite arithmetic (i.e., "elementary number theory"); I doubt very much, however, that he even took that class while in college.  I didn't, although, I did take the 3-sememter calculus sequence, linear algebra, etc.
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RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 4:44 am)Alex K Wrote:
(October 22, 2016 at 1:06 am)Mudhammam Wrote: Apparently the ability to communicate to you that the nature of "0" is not entirely understood.

0 is just a theory

Thanks for making we waste my time googling, ya dick.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#14
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
WLC is making a use/mention error.

The number zero obviously exists.. What it represents is nothingness and nothingness is the quality of nothing and is therefore nothing and therefore doesn't exist. So there is "zero" but there is no zeroness. The number zero obviously exists so he's simply mistaken due to his error.

Can't say I'm surprised he's committing a form of the equivocation fallacy (the use/mention error in this case) he does it all the fucking time.

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#15
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 10:26 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: nothingness is the quality of nothing
My point exactly.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#16
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Mudhammam Wrote:
(October 22, 2016 at 10:26 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: nothingness is the quality of nothing
My point exactly.

Makes one wonder if Craig accepts negative numbers?  After all, what makes something "negative"?
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#17
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(October 22, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: My point exactly.

Makes one wonder if Craig accepts negative numbers?  After all, what makes something "negative"?

You can either multiply any number by negative potato or add more negative potato's than the number but that's far more laborious growing operation. Besides, you can always divide your negative potato out later and get it back.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#18
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
There's a zero because calculating with a "10" like this [Image: 200px-Tetractys.svg.png] is a pain in the protractor.

Unless you are looking for triangular numbers.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#19
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 22, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(October 22, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: My point exactly.

Makes one wonder if Craig accepts negative numbers?  After all, what makes something "negative"?

Yeah Billy Lame Creg The Massive Equivocator be like:

"Now I'm not going to be a pessimist... so it follows from that logically that if we want to be positive in our lives we must take the view (notice how I emphasise words almost randomly) that negative numbers do not exist."

He's such a fucking cretin.
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#20
RE: William Lane Craig denies the number zero.
(October 21, 2016 at 11:01 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Show me evidence of a ["]zero["] and I'll believe you. Popcorn

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